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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I've searched the board looking for info. on skiing at Stowe, specifically:

Good restaurants
Good apres-ski places
Best ski rental
Best boot fitting

and, importantly...great instructors.

I have read the recommendations on EpicSki and called Stowe today to try and get Stu or skiswift, following what y'all have said. Would you believe that in the 7 days I will be there over Xmas, skiswift does not have ANY time available!!
I was told that Stu does not teach bumps, evidently he had an injury last year.
Soooooooooo, any other thoughts?

I guess I'm a strong level 7 or 8, but love skiing moguls, and really want to ski the Front 4.
I read Comprex's great feedback, and am reluctant to use the guy she used.
My girlfriend is about the same level, and would be joining us, and, NO she would not prefer a female instructor. I was asked this when I called!

Thanks for your help
post #2 of 21
It's been a long time but, there are a few private shops in town that offer better quality equipment. I even rented La Croix skis for a powder day.

Stoweflake pub grub was pretty good and there was a large Italian place in the village. As a family guy we weren't into the fine dining.

Memory serves there was also a Ski Center try all the newest demo gear place too.
post #3 of 21
I'd say me, but I'm booked. I'd say Doug Stewart, but he's got a baby due on the 21st (congrats Doug). See if you can get Andy Vallance. He rips in the bumps, and I'm pretty sure he can teach too. I don't think Ed Gill would be available, but he is very good. Tom Loring is a new Level 3, I haven't skied with him much, but I know he can ski bumps. There's a couple of names for you.

Bootfitting, Inner Bootworks or Race Stock Sports. IB is much much closer to the hill. Ski rental if you want good stuff, I'd say the on hill demo center is your best bet, then you can change at will. Of course, it is Xmas week, so you may need reservations, you could try Pinnacle or Boots 'n Boards for that.

Best restaurabt in town IMHO is Old Vienna Tea Room.
post #4 of 21
Pie In The Sky for good pizza. I like it anyway.
post #5 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC_duh
I've searched the board looking for info. on skiing at Stowe, specifically:

Good restaurants
Good apres-ski places
Best ski rental
Best boot fitting

and, importantly...great instructors.

I have read the recommendations on EpicSki and called Stowe today to try and get Stu or skiswift, following what y'all have said. Would you believe that in the 7 days I will be there over Xmas, skiswift does not have ANY time available!!
I was told that Stu does not teach bumps, evidently he had an injury last year.
Soooooooooo, any other thoughts?

I guess I'm a strong level 7 or 8, but love skiing moguls, and really want to ski the Front 4.
I read Comprex's great feedback, and am reluctant to use the guy she used.
My girlfriend is about the same level, and would be joining us, and, NO she would not prefer a female instructor. I was asked this when I called!

Thanks for your help
Restruant- The Shed (On the Mtn. Rd.)
Apres- The Rusty Nail
Rentals- Boots 'n Boards
Boots- Inner Bootworks (same as B 'n B)

Instructor- I forget his last name but his first name is regie. he is wonderful.
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by SkiStarr90
Boots- Inner Bootworks (same as B 'n B)
Inner Bootworks is not at Boots n' Boards. It is at Pinnacle.
post #7 of 21
Tim Thompson-examiner
post #8 of 21
After ski bars: The Shed, try their Mountain Ale, it's a terrific brew. Matterhorn is pretty cool too. I think the Rusty Nail often has bands on weekends. I'm not aware of any other late night dance places.

Restaurants: Trattoria La Festa, excellent and diverse Italian, very good wine list, and a comfortable and relaxed atmosphere. Prices are moderate, I think it offers good quality to price value. We really like Miguel's Stowe Away for Southwest/Mexican fare. There's another Mexican place that lots of folks like but we can't seem to get past Miguel's cause we like it so well. We basically go to the above places everytime we visit Stowe. Gracie's has excellent pub grub. We've eaten at several other very good restaurants, but the names are escaping me right now. Stowe has lots of excellent dining options.
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by epic
Inner Bootworks is not at Boots n' Boards. It is at Pinnacle.
My mistake
post #10 of 21
I saw Andy today, he is not available either, and suggested Ian Ralphs who is full cert Aussie and PSIA. I couldn't remember his last name before, or I'd have already suggested him.
post #11 of 21

Mr. T

I would second the nomination of Mr. Thompson. He's one of the few eastern examiners who can ski.

But go right to the top and book Razor.
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 

Update

Thnx to all of you for your advice!!!!
I took a trip to Stowe over Thanksgiving to check things out...we're thinking of buying a place there.
First off..checked out Inner Bootworks..it was frenetic in there..they definitely seem to have a great trade. Met Benny there..what a trip he is. I will for sure see him later this season, he seems really knowledgeable. Asked about instructors, they gave me 'skiswift's' card!

Had dinner at Michael's on the Hill, chef-owned, with DC prices. Great wine list, but dinner for 2 with wine was over $300.
Next night went to Foxfire, really, really good Northern Italian food. Prices more rational.

Stayed at Topnotch..good price for fairly decent accomodations. Many people suggested Stoweflake's new townhouses, so may try that next.

Went to Matterhorn, typical ski town bar, with typical ski town male/female ratios! It was fun, good beer, good wings. Locals seem a tad precious.

Skied at Mansfield, not much open, but what was open was in great shape, and fairly uncrowded. Anyone who says the Front 4 are not steep and gnarly is whacko! Even Stowe's blue runs are a challenge compared with Western blues.

Regarding your recommendations for instructors:
Tim Thompson is no longer at Stowe.
Andy Valance is a supervisor, and is not available for lessons. I did meet him very briefly at the Spruce desk, and was underwhelmed.
Doug Stewart is highly regarded as a skier, but not as a teacher..he might be available. Everyone remarked on what a nice guy he is.
Ian Ralphs..I could not find anyone who would put in a good word for him..so I passed.
Ed Gill...everyone seems to like him, and he is available, so I might grab lessons with him.
Jason Mills, I was told, skis mainly with kids, and is personality-challenged with adults.
"Razor" runs the place, and is definitely not available to ski with us plebs!

It was great fun checking out a new area, people tell me property prices at Stowe have dropped a bit, so we just jump in.

Thanks again,all
post #13 of 21
What is the latest on "Ye Olde England Inn"?
I used to book that place full for a spring weekend the first four years after Chris took it over from the San Soucie. Then the prices just went through the roof and the Single Ski Club of Albany could not afford to stay at "The Polo Club".
post #14 of 21
Doug not regarded as a great teacher? He may not have made the national D-Team, but he did make the eastern team, and is VERY highly regarded in his teaching ability. He is Eastern ETS (Examiner training squad) and will probably be elevated to Examiner very shortly.

He also teaches the Epic ETU, so you can ask here about his teaching ability.

I've known Doug for about 13 years (when he was prepping for his Level 2 cert), and he has learned from the best and soaked it up well.

Not only could you do a whole lot worse than Doug, you can't do much better.
post #15 of 21
Yeah. some very odd opinions being voiced there, regarding a number of people. And not opinions held by the majority, from my experience. Whoever the OP spoke to must have had a real axe to grind.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by JohnH
Doug not regarded as a great teacher? He may not have made the national D-Team, but he did make the eastern team, and is VERY highly regarded in his teaching ability. He is Eastern ETS (Examiner training squad) and will probably be elevated to Examiner very shortly.

He also teaches the Epic ETU, so you can ask here about his teaching ability.

I've known Doug for about 13 years (when he was prepping for his Level 2 cert), and he has learned from the best and soaked it up well.

Not only could you do a whole lot worse than Doug, you can't do much better.
This is turning into a I love Doug thread, and I have to totally agree with you about his teaching ability. I've known Doug since he was a junior instructor. We even got "Registered" in PSIA together. He's the one of the nicest guys, and one of the best skiers I've had the pleasure to know.
post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 

Don't shoot the messenger

Hey!! Obviously I got biased views, that is what opinions are!!
But, if you ask enough people, a clearer image appears...don't you know we live and die by polls here in DC!
I, naturally, got a very narrow response from people in the Matterhorn, ski shops and mountain restaurants.
I did get other recommendations...Paul Arnett was highly rated at Boots and Boards, and Jim Nulte was also spoken highly of.
If I am to pay $500 a day for a teacher, I will do some research. If what I discover does not jibe with your OPINION, remember that it is only your OPINION, not fact.
What might be important for you to find in a ski instructor might be irrelevant to me.

As to Olde England Inn, I did have a beer there, it is soooooooooo pretentious, and over-priced.
post #18 of 21
I haven't been to Stowe in 20 years. Reading these threads motivates me to investigate making that effort. Living here in Pa. I can ski in the west for probably the same amount of money or less. I have two good friends that own property now in Vail and Aspen that generously allow me to stay for free. I have a Colorado card and can get disounts on tickets at Vail. So going west will end up costing me less.
Stowe is truly a special place. The terrain is great there and the runs are super challenging. I would like to get back before I am too old to scare myself.

When I was there 20 years ago I looked down Goat and decided it was too tough and menacing. Maybe the short shaped skis today would compensate for the years that have gone by.

I always liked their moniker Ski Capital of The East Period. More 2,000 vert runs off lifts than anywhere else in New England.
post #19 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC_duh
Hey!! Obviously I got biased views, that is what opinions are!!
But, if you ask enough people, a clearer image appears...don't you know we live and die by polls here in DC!
I, naturally, got a very narrow response from people in the Matterhorn, ski shops and mountain restaurants.
I did get other recommendations...Paul Arnett was highly rated at Boots and Boards, and Jim Nulte was also spoken highly of.
If I am to pay $500 a day for a teacher, I will do some research. If what I discover does not jibe with your OPINION, remember that it is only your OPINION, not fact.
What might be important for you to find in a ski instructor might be irrelevant to me.

As to Olde England Inn, I did have a beer there, it is soooooooooo pretentious, and over-priced.
Yup, DC, they are all opinions. I just wanted to make sure you heard some opinions of people who think very highly of Doug.
post #20 of 21
Doug is now the proud father of a baby boy. So he will be available after all. Congrats Doug.
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by epic
Doug is now the proud father of a baby boy. So he will be available after all. Congrats Doug.
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