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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
I'm entering my 3rd year of skiing, and I'm looking to buy some skis and bindings. I'm mid 40's, 155lbs, 5'6", and I ski mostly New England groomed trails (Mt. Snow, Okemo, Sugarbush, etc). At the end of last season, I was comfortable on the easier Blues, though still working on speed control through turns (I tend to make harder mid to short turns).Ice is always a joy!

At the end of last season, I looked at Atomic C7's & C9's, Head C140's, and some K2 Omni 4.5's, but could find neither demos nor new skis in my size (148-155). With all of the new models out, I don't know where to start.

A local ski shop suggested Atomic Izor 7.5's or Volkl AC2's, but I would greatly appreciate some insight and suggestions from the forum.

Thanks
post #2 of 24
I like the Volkl AC2 or 4 star for you...probably 168/ demo if you can the 4 star and all supersports hold onto the end of the turn a little more than you might like. You can learn to like it tho.

If shop will give deal on AC2 go for it.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
The AC2 seems like a good all mountain, with a decent edge for NE skiing. Have not seen any deals yet - about $570 locally with bindings. A bit more than I was looking to spend, but I haven't shopped around yet.

The end of the turn is where I was having the most difficulty last year, but I was starting to improve my last couple of times out.

Thanks for the quick response.
post #4 of 24
AC2 for sure. Or consider 2004 or 2003 model of same ski. 2003 = 724 AX2. 2004 = 724 Ex?(not sure of last letter in match to ac2, I am sure someone will pipe in with the answer)
post #5 of 24
The Izor would also be a good choice. Lighter, well-behaved ski. You may also want to look at the K2 True Luv and Sweet Luv.
post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 
How does the Izor 7.5 differ from last year's C-7 or C-9? Also, I like to ski at moderate speeds on trails where I can maintain control, and slower on more difficult trails or when skiing with my kids. Ice is always an issue, so I need a ski with a good grip and one that's easy to turn. Finding demos is tough, so I appreciate all of the input you are giving me!

K-2 ski's you mentioned are Women's skis - guess I left my gender out of my profile in my first post!
post #7 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by pvski
K-2 ski's you mentioned are Women's skis - guess I left my gender out of my profile in my first post!
Sorry, Steve gets ahead of himself sometimes.
post #8 of 24
pvski, I am so sorry!

That's what I get for making assumptions! Sorry, man.

bong tells me that the Izor 9.7 would really work well for what you're trying to do (he tried them, and I didn't).
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Not a problem, Steve!

I've been reading many of the threads on technique and level assessment, and your comments are good. Based on what I've read over the last hour or so, I would say that I am an advanced beginner approaching intermediate. I am starting to learn how to carve, but I skid just as often on steeper inclines to control my speed. I want skis that I can grow with, but I don't want to fight with them on turns at this point either, both from a learning perspective and with regards to knee fatigue.

Besides the Izor 7.5 and 9.7, and other skis you think I should look at?

Marc
post #10 of 24
Don't buy new. Buy a 170 2003 ax3 or last years exp. It will be all the ski you need and more but very forgiving. Then in a year or 2 ,buy this years allstar or 5 star used and save big$$.
post #11 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by ski=free
Don't buy new. Buy a 170 2003 ax3 or last years exp. It will be all the ski you need and more but very forgiving. Then in a year or 2 ,buy this years allstar or 5 star used and save big$$.
I like these thoughts, I have seen some real nice deals on ebay recently.
The 724 ax3 would be a bit more ski then the ac2 but I recall it has a more narrow tail which might release the turn a little easier. I am actually looking for a 724 ax3 in flat mount either 184 or 177 now to compliment my new 168 allstars.

If you are having trouble ending the turn even the 4 star might overwhelm you the supersport series demand good modern technique, I like the ac2 if you can swing the steep price. I think part of your strategy might be developing a relationship with a good local shop. You will likely grow out of the ac2 as you improve and having a trusted shop to rely on can accelerate your growth as a skier. I do ebay for some of my gear but I am an experienced skier. I have tech friends who can help me set gear up if need be. Ebay is nice, but you probably should stick with the shop. They have already made one good suggestion by suggesting the ac2 IMO. Good luck and enjoy the journey!
post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 
The shop is a bit pricey, but they do offer a trade-in allowance of 50% of purchase price toward your next purchase. I'm not averse to buying used or a previous year's ski for now, and upgrading later.

Volkl 724 AX3's seem to be hard to find in shorter lengths. What about last year's Atomic C7?
post #13 of 24

........

Marc,
Some great ideas..particularly ski=free's
As far as ssh-"SteveH" goes...so Steve, is this some sort of shot at us less_than_6' guys... You tall guys have Very, Very, slow feet!

Heads are a pretty "meaty"?/"burly"? ski...but will be a "fast" ski
Three to demo....K2 Crossfire, Dynastar 4800, and Elan's M666(nice NewEngland powder ski)
..All not up at the level of edgegrip of the 5Star, but close....but both are not quite as stiff a ski..all have torsional stiffness.


The boots and alignment are the most important!....

another_Steve :
post #14 of 24
Fischer RX4 in 160 cm. You can find deals on ebay for skis with railflex bindings for about $250.00

Ski press gave these skis very high remarks. They are a notch above Fischers entry level ski. Very good edge hold and is forgiving.
post #15 of 24
I vote for the Izors in 160.
post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 
Dynastar 4800's look interesting, but it sounds like they may not have enough edge grip for southern NE groomers. The Fischer RX4's are a good suggestion - I actually looked at them last year, but could not find them in 150 or 160 towards the end of the season.

The Izor's, the 2003/2004 Volkl 724 AX3's and the new AC2's seem to be the most popular choices. Because of the price, I'd pobably want to demo the Izor's and AC2 before buying them. I know Okemo has an Atomic demo center, but I'm not sure where I can demo the Volkl's.

If I go with a used ski, or last year's models on ebay, are there any other skis I should consider besides the AX3's and the RX4's? It's sometimes hard to find the 150-160's, so a few more options couldn't hurt!

Thank you to everyone for your input.
post #17 of 24
e-bay has a few (3) RX4's in 160

heres the link;
http://cgi.ebay.com/2004-Fischer-RX4...c mdZViewItem
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Scott
post #19 of 24
Atomic C9s would work well for you. There are still a lot of them around. If not, go for the Izor.
post #20 of 24
Take a trip up to Sunday River this weekend for demo days or hit Cannon on Dec 12 or 14th I can't remember.

The Izors have wicked edge grip.
post #21 of 24

No mention of a Metron

I have suggested the Metron 9 and 10 to two friends. One is pretty good but out of the 70s - uphill tip lead and big slider. I skied a few runs with him over the weekend and he was skidding big time. It was his first time out on new skis, so I need to cut him some slack. I do believe that he will need a few lessons to make the adjustment.

I hope that I did not steer him wrong.

The other friend is not as good a skier. Seems to not have a clue as to what a carved turn is (probably from watching me!). He's the one I am concerned about most.

Man, I hope they work out. Are these skis appropriate for this level? Skier no. 1 is really quite good and surprises people with his ability. He is on the large side but looks good - athletic.
post #22 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scalce
Take a trip up to Sunday River this weekend for demo days or hit Cannon on Dec 12 or 14th I can't remember.

The Izors have wicked edge grip.

Sunday River is too long of a trip for us this weekend - 4-5 hrs. Does anyone know of any good demo days coming up in Southern Vermont or Mass. anytime soon?
post #23 of 24
Hunter is having a demo weekend December 10th and 11th. I do not know where in CT you are, but if you are near us, you can hitch a ride up...we're going. I want to demo RX8's and Atomic sX10's

_Scott
post #24 of 24
Also a 3rd season NE skier like you. At the end of last year my son and I were comfortable on all blues and few blacks. We celebrated with new skis -- him (15) Atomic C9's, me (50) Metrox IX. We ski mostly at Loon and Sunapee but Wawa for weekends when we don't feel like a long ride.


Quote:
Originally Posted by pvski
I'm entering my 3rd year of skiing, and I'm looking to buy some skis and bindings. I'm mid 40's, 155lbs, 5'6", and I ski mostly New England groomed trails (Mt. Snow, Okemo, Sugarbush, etc). At the end of last season, I was comfortable on the easier Blues, though still working on speed control through turns (I tend to make harder mid to short turns).Ice is always a joy!

At the end of last season, I looked at Atomic C7's & C9's, Head C140's, and some K2 Omni 4.5's, but could find neither demos nor new skis in my size (148-155). With all of the new models out, I don't know where to start.

A local ski shop suggested Atomic Izor 7.5's or Volkl AC2's, but I would greatly appreciate some insight and suggestions from the forum.

Thanks
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