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post #61 of 85
I lost Gonzo.
But thanks for all the work.
post #62 of 85
Hey why would a javascript issue be fixed by updating your java runtime?

Java and Javascript are totally different things. Only the names are similar but the technologies and the languages are totally different.

The javascript implementation in any given browser is that written by the browser publisher (mozilla.org for firefox or the other gecko browsers, microsoft for ie). It has nothing to do with the Java runtime written by Sun Microsystems (in most cases).

So I'm confused. Not that that's an unusual situation
post #63 of 85
As noted, I didn't update Java and fixed the problem by refreshing to the new code. You are absolutely right that the JVM shouldn't have anything to do with this...unless I'm missing something.
post #64 of 85
Thread Starter 
good point..

It's the java runtime enviroment that needs to be updated to fix the problem. Not the javascript. My oops..

the website uses Java to run certain things and for some reason if there is java code cached in your browser updating the java enviroment doesn't fix the problem unless you flush the cache.

My oops for mixing the two terms..

DC
post #65 of 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by dchan
good point..

It's the java runtime enviroment that needs to be updated to fix the problem. Not the javascript. My oops..

the website uses Java to run certain things and for some reason if there is java code cached in your browser updating the java enviroment doesn't fix the problem unless you flush the cache.

My oops for mixing the two terms..

DC
Are you saying that flushing the cache will fix the problem *without* updating the JRE? If so, thet makes *much* more sense.
post #66 of 85
dchan, thanks for the upgrade. You handled it really well and 3.5 rocks...both in terms of performance and features. I like this new feature a lot:

"The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts."

Still hoping we can do something with the page titles though.
post #67 of 85
test

test
post #68 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
Are you saying that flushing the cache will fix the problem *without* updating the JRE? If so, thet makes *much* more sense.
Actually I'm not totally sure which is the true fix. I do know that on 2 identical machines (hardware and software) except for versions of firefox and java.

The one system all the features were working both in firefox and IE. This one had just been updated to the latest version of everything and was pretty much an untouched system. (getting ready to deliver to a customer so it was getting burned in)

The second machine Identical hardware, Loaded from the same image but the firefox browser was still 1.0.6 and JRE was previous release. 5.0 release 3 I think.
IE working fine. Firefox not. Clear cache, still not working. update firefox to 1.0.7 Still failing. update JRE, and clear cache again, now it starts working. I forgot to test between update JRE and clear cache the last time and I made the mistake of not clearing the cache after the update of firefox to 1.0.7 so I am not totally positive which part fixed it. Except on servers it can't hurt to have the latest JRE and Firefox anyway so...

If you have a server and are running APC Powerchute of an older vintage, the new JRE can cause problems that require removal of powerchute and reinstalling the latest version But that's another story.
post #69 of 85
I haven't changed the JRE on my other machine. I'll check the site from there in the morning.
post #70 of 85

Another issue

Another issue -in case this one hasn't been mentioned, and it's only a small detail.

I notice when sending PM's now, that the message confirmation tally is messed up. Now, the unconfirmed list says zero whether the person has picked up the PM or not. I liked that little feature, b/c I wouldn't wait around for a reply if I could see that the message hadn't even been picked up yet.

Is this a big deal to fix?

thanks
post #71 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRAU
Another issue -in case this one hasn't been mentioned, and it's only a small detail.

I notice when sending PM's now, that the message confirmation tally is messed up. Now, the unconfirmed list says zero whether the person has picked up the PM or not. I liked that little feature, b/c I wouldn't wait around for a reply if I could see that the message hadn't even been picked up yet.

Is this a big deal to fix?

thanks
Seems to be working fine.

I did notice that the default for sending PM's has changed however. The request confirmation is no longer automatic. There are options at the bottom. one of which is receipt notification.

Not sure if it's only my account (admin) but maybe it's a new feature. When I start typing the handle of someone I'm sending a PM to, the system prompts me with a list of handles matching the letters as I start typing. Way cool:
post #72 of 85

New Posts Button?

I was hoping this upgrade would fix the New Posts button. I've seen others mention it, and it seems that one doesn't really know it's not 100% working, unless you look at the forums another way. In my case it seems to randomly(?) exclude threads that have been updated since the last itme I was logged on/viewed new posts. And I only notice it (i.e., see the new posts) when another, later new entry is posted to the thread, and subsequently see one or more entries it missed.

A good example is this thread from yesterday: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=32127. It was updated at these times:

Yesterday, 05:16 AM

Yesterday, 09:42 AM

Yesterday, 09:50 AM

Yesterday, 09:54 AM

Yesterday, 09:55 AM

Yesterday, 09:14 PM*

*Note this is PM, the others are AM


It was started yesterday at 5:16 AM, and the first post did show up the new posts list when I looked at ~9:15 AM.

The next time I used the new posts button was between 7:00 pm and 8:30 PM (used is several times in this perios), but that updated thread never appeared. It did appear later, and was appearently triggered by the last posting at 9:14 PM. Any idea why the postings from 9:42, 9:50, 9:54 etc., did not cause it to appear in the new post listing?


Update: This bug caught me again, on a thread I have been following closely, http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=32193
post #73 of 85
I just did a search that took maybe 3 seconds. the message i got was search took -88,000 seconds.

I did it again about 4 minutes later and got the message

Search took -13.10 seconds; generated 4 minute(s) ago.

Just curious as to what the start of the clock is?? How can it be MINUS time??
post #74 of 85
I haven't had any of these problems, and i think I nuked my java cache from the script a while back, when I got that java virus. Deleted that line of code to get rid of it.
post #75 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skier_j
I just did a search that took maybe 3 seconds. the message i got was search took -88,000 seconds.

I did it again about 4 minutes later and got the message

Search took -13.10 seconds; generated 4 minute(s) ago.

Just curious as to what the start of the clock is?? How can it be MINUS time??
This might have to do with serveral items. I just did a search and it and it reported 88,000 seconds. then I updated my clock using an atomic sync. (off 1.20 seconds) then re did the same search and it was .09 seconds. Tried several more and all reported in the + side. Then I did a search that took less time and it went back into the Minus at 88,000 or more. don't remember the exact number.

Now I've updated the clock on the server to atomic clock time. (it's set to recalibrate itself every night now) and the searches seem to have corrected their time info.

So if you are getting times that don't make sense, Check your PC's time clock. I am guessing that the software takes info from your submit time (as sent by your computer) and compares it with the time after the result is posted (based on the server's time) to generate that number. If the 2 computers are not set to exactly the same time it will generate bad data. "GIGO".

I think this is done this way to help account for people in different time zones. You might have noticed that the post time is based on your settings for where you happen to be. (GMT +- whatever) The server is set for Pacific standard time.

DC
post #76 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skier_j
I just did a search that took maybe 3 seconds. the message i got was search took -88,000 seconds.

I did it again about 4 minutes later and got the message

Search took -13.10 seconds; generated 4 minute(s) ago.

Just curious as to what the start of the clock is?? How can it be MINUS time??
Shorter answer, I think the start of the search is set by your PC's time when you hit search. The stop time is the instant the search is completed based on the server's clock. If your computer time has drifted ahead a little....
post #77 of 85

Has there been a change

In the attachment posting policy?
post #78 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by comprex
In the attachment posting policy?
no. Why?
post #79 of 85

This is what I see at bottom of page.

You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
post #80 of 85
Thread Starter 
log off and back on.

Then check again.

DC
post #81 of 85
I'm following up on the New Posts button/Today's Posts button problems I'm been seeing.

After logging out last night, just now I logged in again. Clicked New Posts button and there was all of one new post listed. I knew that was not correct. Then tried Today's Posts, and the list was long, but all of threads on the list were marked as read.

It's getting increasingly annoying to simply look at the latest posts. Any good ideas on if this is isolated to me/my PC, or is it the forum itself?
post #82 of 85
Dave, I'm back after several days away and without any input from me, my sig has reverted to an old one that was not in use at the time of my most recent visits. Was there a database rebuild in the last few days?
post #83 of 85
Thread Starter 
no database rebuilds since the conversion. I have only needed to do one rebuild since I took over the hosting .

I do wonder however what the affect of having yourself logged on in several places does to continuity of data.

I have gone to computers that I had not used in several months and found myself still logged on there. I don't change much on my profile so would not see many changes. I just might have to start experimenting.

I do know that on the older version of the software if you make a sig change it used to change your sig on every post you ever made. Since the forum software is actually building every page dynamicly if you change the sig in the database, it is reflected in every post. (except for within quote boxes)

DC
post #84 of 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by dchan
no database rebuilds since the conversion. I have only needed to do one rebuild since I took over the hosting .

I do wonder however what the affect of having yourself logged on in several places does to continuity of data.

I have gone to computers that I had not used in several months and found myself still logged on there. I don't change much on my profile so would not see many changes. I just might have to start experimenting.

I do know that on the older version of the software if you make a sig change it used to change your sig on every post you ever made. Since the forum software is actually building every page dynamicly if you change the sig in the database, it is reflected in every post. (except for within quote boxes)

DC
huh. as far as I know...your current sig is the sig that appears on ever post you ever made (that has a sig shown)...so that if I change my sig right now, the change shows on all old posts.
post #85 of 85

Delete key when typing a message

Seems like the new software has a tiny bug. Sometimes it "forgets" the delete key. Of course I can't duplicate the problem now that I'm complaining about it. Maybe someone else can?
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