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Which Mountain Hardwear Hardshell Jacket

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
I was thinking of the Exposure II or the Aiguille Parka. Primary use will be at STOWE, on the freezing cold days, so it has to be all weather (rain, blizzrd, wind). IT MUST BE VERY WIND RESITANT, and what liner (fleece) made by MH that is VERY WARM.

Thanx
post #2 of 23
Can't speak to the MH hardshells as I am an Arcteryx Guy but the MH Windstopper is a truly great piece of gear for a warm fleece. Have had mine for 3+ years and love it for its warmth and GORE Windstopper properties. The only drawback I have found compared to my Arcteryx fleeces(Gamma SV/ Gamma MX) is that it seems a little bulky when layered beneath a technical shell.Cheers
post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by SkiStarr90
I was thinking of the Exposure II or the Aiguille Parka. Primary use will be at STOWE, on the freezing cold days, so it has to be all weather (rain, blizzrd, wind). IT MUST BE VERY WIND RESITANT, and what liner (fleece) made by MH that is VERY WARM.

Thanx
Seriously, you need other people's help in choosing a freakin' jacket? The more time I spend on this board, the more pathetic some of it's members seem. Are you guys so desparate to talk skiing and ski gear that you can't buy a damn jacket, midlayers, pants, etc, without asking the committee? I'm sorry, but that's sorry.
post #4 of 23
Thread Starter 
Then what are consumer reports for. Take a lolok around you and youll see that uou are in the wrong forrester.
post #5 of 23
I think queurying bears for advice and opinions on products is a good thing. Especially with the plethora of choices that are out there. Since equipment for this sport is definitely in the upper tiers of price per piece some of us would like to hear others experince with the products we are considering.Happy shoppingCheers
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by Forrester
Seriously, you need other people's help in choosing a freakin' jacket? The more time I spend on this board, the more pathetic some of it's members seem. Are you guys so desparate to talk skiing and ski gear that you can't buy a damn jacket, midlayers, pants, etc, without asking the committee? I'm sorry, but that's sorry.
You're defintely in the wrong place buddy. A large majority of what we do here at Epic is provide advice on gear to each other so that we can make good purchasing decisions. Asking whether people have direct experience with a manufacturer's gear and can make recommendations is a big portion of what we are about.

Please lose the attitude or head over to TGR where that crap is common place.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by Noodler
You're defintely in the wrong place buddy. A large majority of what we do here at Epic is provide advice on gear to each other so that we can make good purchasing decisions. Asking whether people have direct experience with a manufacturer's gear and can make recommendations is a big portion of what we are about.

Please lose the attitude or head over to TGR where that crap is common place.

Is that an attempt at censor, Noodler? We're talking about Jackets...they all pretty much do the same thing. If you honestly need advice on staying warm, I feel for you. Really I do. Skis, boots, hell, even gloves I can understand hedging your bets and getting advice. But for two jackets made by the same company? Give me a break. Is anyone even remotely self sufficient anymore? And I will not drop the attitude, either. It's my perogative to formulate an opinion and to articulate that opinion. Frankly, I could give a rat's ass whether you like said opinion or not.
post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 
Well I asked for help picking th jacket, not why i cant post my posts here. and there are obviously differences betwen the jackets

Magots go to TGR where they might become flies that we swat.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by Forrester
Is that an attempt at censor, Noodler? We're talking about Jackets...they all pretty much do the same thing. If you honestly need advice on staying warm, I feel for you. Really I do. Skis, boots, hell, even gloves I can understand hedging your bets and getting advice. But for two jackets made by the same company? Give me a break. Is anyone even remotely self sufficient anymore? And I will not drop the attitude, either. It's my perogative to formulate an opinion and to articulate that opinion. Frankly, I could give a rat's ass whether you like said opinion or not.
Call it a censor if you want, but we like to keep this place friendly and your post was nothing but an attack on someone genuinely looking for some good advice.

If you feel the need to "jong" people then head over to TGR. That's not what were about here.
post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by Noodler
Call it a censor if you want, but we like to keep this place friendly and your post was nothing but an attack on someone genuinely looking for some good advice.

If you feel the need to "jong" people then head over to TGR. That's not what were about here.
First off, that was an attack at all such stupid questions. I didn't single out the originator of this thread. Second of all, you aren't the owner or operator of EpicSki, so flip off. And while "we're" at it, learn how to use a contraction, would you? You make us skiiers sound like undereducated 'bros'. Perhaps you belong on TGR with the other bros and bras.
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by Forrester
First off, that was an attack at all such stupid questions. I didn't single out the originator of this thread. Second of all, you aren't the owner or operator of EpicSki, so flip off. And while "we're" at it, learn how to use a contraction, would you? You make us skiiers sound like undereducated 'bros'. Perhaps you belong on TGR with the other bros and bras.
Ok - so were's the contraction problem?
post #12 of 23
"If you feel the need to "jong" people then head over to TGR. That's not what were about here."

See anything? If not, you might want to try attending college.
post #13 of 23
[quote=Forrester]First off, that was an attack at all such stupid questions. I didn't single out the originator of this thread.

Go back to your post Forrester - since you quoted the originator in your post it certainly seemed like said originator was singled out.

Anyway, what's a contraction when it isn't having a baby? Looked like an apostrophe to me.
post #14 of 23
Why Mountain Hardwear anyway? Good stuff though - I nearly got the Tenacity Descent jacket last year, until I spotted the Arc'Teryx Alpha SV which is superb IMO.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Forrester
First off, that was an attack at all such stupid questions. I didn't single out the originator of this thread. Second of all, you aren't the owner or operator of EpicSki, so flip off. And while "we're" at it, learn how to use a contraction, would you? You make us skiiers sound like undereducated 'bros'. Perhaps you belong on TGR with the other bros and bras.
Forrester, what are 'bros'?

Forrester, you can't spell skiers, which now makes you look incredibly foolish.

Forrester, do you actually have an opinion on the initial poster's jacket options?
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by Forrester
"If you feel the need to "jong" people then head over to TGR. That's not what were about here."

See anything? If not, you might want to try attending college.
You gotta be kidding me. You're on a personal attack because I forgot an apostrophe for the contraction "we are"? Buddy, why don't you take a look at yourself and think about why you came to EpicSki and what you want to add to our community - so far in my view it hasn't been much.

I don't own this place (as most of us don't), but we do try to self-police it and play nice with each other. I'm sorry if you feel personally offended by my comments, but the tone of your original post has no place on this forum.
post #17 of 23
Thread Starter 
I still havent heard a jacket review:
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by Forrester
And I will not drop the attitude, either. It's my perogative to formulate an opinion and to articulate that opinion. Frankly, I could give a rat's ass whether you like said opinion or not.
Hey Forrester...maybe it's your dumb ass that needs to go back to college. Or did you burn through your 4th spell-checker? Prerogative is spelled exactly as I wrote it: prerogative. Not "perogative" like some uneducated knuckle-dragger who could benefit from an 11th grade english primer. Spell before you shoot.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by SkiStarr90
I still havent heard a jacket review:
Sorry to muck up your question with this in-fighting.

So back to the matter at hand. Personally I really like the Maneuver Jacket and Pants, but that will set you back about $700 for the set. The Tenacity setup is also really awesome, but still quite expensive. I came close to pulling the trigger on these before I bought my Patagonia stuff. If your budget can handle it (or if you find a great deal) I don't see how you could go wrong with either of these jackets. I'm not really familiar with the ones you were originally considering.
post #20 of 23
No more sniping. Get back to the subject. Thanks...

(ssh as moderator)
post #21 of 23
Strange how nobody can answer this man's questions. I guess it makes us all feel insecure and leads to an unholy argument about CLOTHING!!!!!!!

Does my arse look big in Marmot Bibs?
post #22 of 23
Since none of the bears need to be helping, I guess a maggot may have to step in... (much love all)

I'd go with the aiguille as it's all gore-tex as opposed to the exposure, which is made of conduit. I have the swift, which is essentially a lighter, more breathable version of the aiguille, and it's very resistant to the wet and wind, not to mention extremely lightweight. For an inner layer, you can't go wrong with a windstopper/windbloc fleece. You may be able to get out of it cheaper with an EMS fleece, which are extremely durable and very warm (I've been wearing mine constantly for 8 years or so). If you're one of those people that gets cold really easily, you may want to consider the MH flip jacket as an inner, as it's a very form-fitting synthetic down jacket that is warmer than anything else it's size IMO. Also, midweight bergelene is key to surviving the cold.
post #23 of 23
I am predominantly a climber/mountaineer though clearly there are many overlaps in terms of gear. I have recently purchased the 'mountain hardwear aiguille parka' and I have been very impressed with its performance. I am a strong mountain hardwear fan, I have always found their gear reliable and of an excellent quality (though I am compelled to agree with some earlier posts in that arc'teryx undoubtedly lead the field, though at further expense). The aiguille jacket is unbelieveably lightweight at only 440g, and is fully waterproof/windproof (as can be expected for £220 !!!). The material is reasonably tough (considering the weight) and what has impressed me most is the superb quality of all the seams and joints. Each joint is immaculately welded, with very few seams at all yet a well articulated fit. I would highly recommend this jacket, though were my budget larger I would definetely buy the superior arc'teryx jacket, which I find to be almost flawless in design and quality.
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