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What does "big mountain" mean?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I'm not a gear geek (although I'm most certainly a geek) and I have been perplexed by this question. What better place to be put straight?

What do they mean by "big mountain" when talking about skis? Big mountain powder boards, big mountain carvers, etc. Why don't they work just as well on a small mountain, or a hill?

My skis were advertised as "big mountain" skis but I have not noticed a difference in their performance between using them at Whistler and much more modest hills.

Is it me?
post #2 of 20
Buy a ski movie call (The Hit List) Its on sale @ your local ski shop.
Its one of the best Big Mountain Ski Moves ever made. And you will get a good look @ what BIG MOUNTAIN SKING is about. The athletes in the movie all use BIG MOUNTAIN Skis.
post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by MTT
Buy a ski movie call (The Hit List) Its on sale @ your local ski shop.
Its one of the best Big Mountain Ski Moves ever made. And you will get a good look @ what BIG MOUNTAIN SKING is about. The athletes in the movie all use BIG MOUNTAIN Skis.
Oh, I get it. It's not the skis, it's the skiers. So wimps like me should stay away from that stuff, right?
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by MTT
Buy a ski movie call (The Hit List) Its on sale @ your local ski shop.
Its one of the best Big Mountain Ski Moves ever made. And you will get a good look @ what BIG MOUNTAIN SKING is about. The athletes in the movie all use BIG MOUNTAIN Skis.
Gorgeous solipsism!
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Posaune
Oh, I get it. It's not the skis, it's the skiers. So wimps like me should stay away from that stuff, right?
That was not the intent of my post, whatsoever. It really is a visual description of what the term (Big Mountain Skis, Big Mountain Skiing IS)

You will also end up with one of the best feel good WOW ski movies you ever saw
post #6 of 20
Big Mountain is what bros and bras use to ski "sick" lines in AK and Antartica and Botswana or wherever. You might want to check over on the TGR site. I'm sure they can tell you all about it. Of course that begs the question of why they are selling skis labeled "big mountain" to all of us normal losers. I guess the same reason that half the skis are "race" something or other. Sorry, feeling xtra cynical today.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lodro
Big Mountain is what bros and bras use to ski "sick" lines in AK and Antartica and Botswana or wherever. You might want to check over on the TGR site. I'm sure they can tell you all about it. Of course that begs the question of why they are selling skis labeled "big mountain" to all of us normal losers. I guess the same reason that half the skis are "race" something or other. Sorry, feeling xtra cynical today.
OK, OK, now I'm getting it. Big Mountain is a term that describes the big egos that people who buy a ski advertised as "big mountain" have. It really doesn't mean anything at all. I think I need a "shriveled mountain" ski, then.
post #8 of 20
I think they're skis that measure turn radius not in meters, but kilometers.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lodro
Big Mountain is what bros and bras use to ski "sick" lines in AK and Antartica and Botswana or wherever.Of course that begs the question of why they are selling skis labeled "big mountain" to all of us normal losers. I guess the same reason that half the skis are "race" something or other. Sorry, feeling xtra cynical today.
That was the correct question.
There are some real or NEAR big mountain skis being sold off the rack to us mear mortals. However the label is starting to get overworked by the marketing departments of some corperations.
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by jstraw
Gorgeous solipsism!
My! How is that solipsism? Please help me here because all I know is what I know and I don't know solipsism from a hole in the ground.
post #11 of 20
JStraw?
I had to google it. Were you offending me? I don't even know. I cant figure out how the word is relavent to the suggestion I made in this tread.


Nothing exists
Even if something exists, nothing can be known about it, and
Even if something could be known about it, knowledge about it can't be communicated to others
Solipsism is generally identified with statement 2 and 3 from Gorgias.

A thought-experiment related to solipsism, although in principle distinct, is the Brain in a Vat. The person performing the thought-experiment considers the possibility that they are trapped within some utterly unknowable reality, much like that illustrated in the movie "The Matrix". A mad scientist could be sending the same impulses to a brain in a vat that a brain understood to be in the "real world" could receive, thereby exactly replicating the world as one knows it. Yet, for the brain in the vat, that world would obviously not be real. This raises the possibility that everything one thinks or knows is illusion. Or at the least that one cannot know, with any certainty, whether one's brain is in the "real world" or in a vat receiving impulses that would create an equivalent consciousness.

Thought similar to solipsism is present in much of eastern philosophy. Taoism and several interpretations of Buddhism, especially Zen, teach that drawing a distinction between self and universe is nonsensical and arbitrary, and merely an artifact of language rather than an inherent reality. Giovanni Gentile postulated a form of solipsism with his own brand of Idealism, which maintained that one's dependent view of reality only existed in so far as it related to the world it created itself into.

Another variation is a sort of materialistic agnosticism, stating simply that nothing outside of one's own thoughts can be absolutely proven to exist; it may all simply be the illusion/imagination/whatever of the thinker.
post #12 of 20
Pocket Rocket is not a "Big Mountain" ski.

AK Rocket Lab Swallowtails are a "Big Mountain" ski.
post #13 of 20
OK I think I get what you mean?
Because I did not put into works what Big Mountain Skiing is? I simply said (Go watch this)?

Watching (The Hit List) was a very good and good natured suggestion (I promise)
post #14 of 20
Ugh...no, I messed up...not a solipsism...that's my life.

Wrong logical fallacy or construct. I meant to acuse you of using the term to define itself. :P

My book learnin' done failed me.
post #15 of 20
Big Mountain = feels good making large radius turns at high speeds on all kinds of snow and feels like you wasted your money doing anything else.
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by MTT
OK I think I get what you mean?
Because I did not put into works what Big Mountain Skiing is? I simply said (Go watch this)?

Watching (The Hit List) was a very good and good natured suggestion (I promise)
It was the notion that big mountain skis are what big mountain skiers use.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by jstraw
Wrong logical fallacy or construct. I meant to acuse you of using the term to define itself. :P
Circular defintion.

http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/define/circle.htm
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Ghost
Big Mountain = feels good making large radius turns at high speeds on all kinds of snow and feels like you wasted your money doing anything else.
And you end up spending all of your time on the lift. So then you have to buy a helicopter, but then we are talking real $$$.
post #19 of 20
Here I thought it was a place in Montana.
post #20 of 20
self referential. Or circular logic....
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