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post #31 of 60
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Originally Posted by bunion
I have a 20 Gb. If I had it to do over I would save the $$ and buy the Shuffle or the Nano.
I toy with the notion of getting a nano to compliment my 60gb iPod. But even if I could spare the $250 bucks, there are other toys I want more.
post #32 of 60
I'm afraid I'll ruin mine. I think eventually if I do ski with tunes I'll get a cheapie one soley for that purpose - possibly the shuffle.
post #33 of 60
I think that the shuffle is the best skiing option. It's light, and very tough. You can't feel it in your jacket. A 1GB shuffle will last all day.
post #34 of 60
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Originally Posted by SkiUtah
I think that the shuffle is the best skiing option. It's light, and very tough. You can't feel it in your jacket. A 1GB shuffle will last all day.
1GB Shuffle: $129, no display, no menu access, .78 ounces.

2GB Nano: $199, color display, menu access, 1.5 ounces.

4GB Nano: $249, ditto, ditto, ditto.
post #35 of 60
What is it with u americans and Ipods, why can't u go your own way, why do you have to be just like everybody else? There are many better and cheaper mp3-players out there just waiting for you, but all you guys look to is the freaking design, and what the guy next door buys... Go for an iRiver (like me...) or perhaps an Creative. Both iRiver and Creative got cooler and cheaper players with a lot better functions and the most important, better sound!!!
post #36 of 60
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Originally Posted by CarlE
What is it with u americans and Ipods, why can't u go your own way, why do you have to be just like everybody else? There are many better and cheaper mp3-players out there just waiting for you, but all you guys look to is the freaking design, and what the guy next door buys... Go for an iRiver (like me...) or perhaps an Creative. Both iRiver and Creative got cooler and cheaper players with a lot better functions and the most important, better sound!!!
Ah, we shouldn't be like everyone else...we should be like you...I get it.
post #37 of 60
My iPod has three times the capacity of either Creative's or iRiver's largest capacity audio players, fwiw.
post #38 of 60

Mini disc anyone??

I got an even better idea than going with an MP3 player (thats what an Ipod is, to those of you simpletons who have no clue and just like the flashy commercials, aka most Ipod owners). I used an Mp3 player for a few seasons and trashed it easily. Then I saw the light. For skiing, nothing beats a mini disc player. I bought a Sony Sports one (you know the indestructable orange colored ones) for a little bit over a hundred dollars. It has been bulletproof. It came with easy to use software that lets me transfer both MP3s that I already have and tracks off of CD to mini disc. So no transferability issues. Battery life is amazing, it uses one AA and I can usually get about 2-3 weeks of life out of one battery. Not bad for the ammount of use it gets, especially in cold weather. I can drop the thing and it won't skip, never has on the hill either, even in crashes it keeps playing. I burn one or two mini discs at the start of the season and I am good to go. Just as easy as an MP3 player, but more durable and cheaper. It just doesn't have the flashy marketing and "cool" appeal.
post #39 of 60

audiophile point of view

I'll leave the skiing with music vs. without music to the masses. But from the point of view of an audiophile - take a look at the creative players instead of the Ipod. I have one, and they tend to be bulletproof (I mean I've dropped mine on concrete and it still works, sits in the bottom of my backpack under tons of books all the time etc...), the sound quality is significantly superior (98 db SNR !!!), and they have an EAX equalizer onboard, which includes a normalize function. This solves the problem of different volume music - so you set one volume, and it'll normalize everything you listen to to that volume so you'll never jump into a new song that's twice as loud, miss the "on your left", and have a nice little collision.
post #40 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
1GB Shuffle: $129, no display, no menu access, .78 ounces.

2GB Nano: $199, color display, menu access, 1.5 ounces.

4GB Nano: $249, ditto, ditto, ditto.
The advantage of the shuffle for skiing is the lower cost, smaller, lighter, and the controls can be operated through your jacket.

The lack of a screen is a plus for me, I don't want a reason to look at my music player while skiing. My real iPod is better for sitting down and listening to music, but for background soundtrack for activities like skiing, biking, runnung, the shuffle is perfect.

The shuffle has an option in iTunes to convert bit rate to 128 (will not change the bit rate in library, only on shuffle) That option will make seventeen hours of music fit in 1GB, so the battery will run out before the songs repeat. (I'm getting close to sixteen hours per charge out of mine.)
post #41 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
I toy with the notion of getting a nano to compliment my 60gb iPod. But even if I could spare the $250 bucks, there are other toys I want more.
$250!? Dude, you already have an iPod. Get a 512MB shuffle for $100 so you don't break your expensive one skiing. If you ski all day, you might hear some of the songs twice, so maybe you need the 1GB, but you don't need a nano.
post #42 of 60
Where does this myth that iPod's are fragile come from? They're tough as nails. The hard drive is the only moving part and the arm on that drive is rearely ever *not* parked. The drive is only active for a few seconds at a time while a file is being read into memory. Yes, it's possible to damage the drive if you whack it *really* good *while* it's reading from the drive but the odds are with you. iPods are very difficult to break.
post #43 of 60
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Originally Posted by iskitoofast4u
I guess it depends on how your brain works. I spend the better part of my waking day with music playing in the background. In college and law school, I took tests while listening to headphones. For some reason, the music allows me to focus on whatever it is I need to be doing, as opposed to all the other things that are going on around me.

From a covering-your @$$ standpoint, however, I again must caution against wearing "bud" or in-ear style headphones on the slopes. If you are involved in an accident and it becomes known that your hearing was seriously compromised, you're going to have a tough time proving it was the other guy's fault for cutting in front of you.
Cover-your-@$$? Law School, you said? lol
post #44 of 60
I have skied with music once during slalom gate training at night and loved it. The energy from the music transfered into my skiing and I felt more aggressive. I would have done it more, but I was using an mp3 player that was thrown in with my cell phone purchase and it didn't seem to like -20 C.

I would ski with music all the time if it weren't for social reasons. Part of the fun of skiing is chilling with people outside, doing something you love. If your music is blasting, it compromises that ability and adds alot of "WHAT???? HOLD ON LET ME TURN THIS THING DOWN!!!!"
post #45 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
1GB Shuffle: $129, no display, no menu access, .78 ounces.

2GB Nano: $199, color display, menu access, 1.5 ounces.

4GB Nano: $249, ditto, ditto, ditto.
I don't ski with tunes, but for those who're interested, you can find much better prices than this for the shuffle. I'm not associated with any of these links, I just thought I'd pass along some of my research to you bears when I saw this thread.

Apple has the 1 GB shuffle for $99 refurbed on their website right now. I know because I just scooped one up.

Newegg has a great carabiner accessory so you can toss the lanyard and clip the shuffle on. The manufacturer's website has white, black and grey, as well an arm or wrist band strap much like Burton's that has built in controls.

Also, for about the same price as the above, mgear has a sweet deal on 512 mb High gear mp3 player/fm radio that clips on like a carabiner.
post #46 of 60

So played out...

Or you could get a 1.5 GB Rio Nitrus off of ebay for $67.06 Buy It Now price. IPods are so played out. The sole reason that they survive is the fratboy/sorority girls who I see walking around campus every day, freshly showered, made up, and dressed at 8:00 AM having just exited the Lexus IS300 which daddy bought them for graduation. All of this while listening to their various different reincarnations of the IPod, probably purchased by daddy for them from Best Buy at 200+% markup.

And no I have no jealousy issues. Unlike them, I have no MP3 player, I actually talk to my friends in between classes, work on my OWN 1999 Toyota Celica (100% paid for with only 39,000 miles,) live off campus in my own home (also paid for) and enjoy my music while driving to and from school.

Everything said here goes double for skiing as far as I'm concerned. Anything that takes away from your ability to hear what's going on around you is dangerous. Don't come back with the "you listen to music in your car" thing either, because my car sterio isn't planted in my ear, obstructing the path of sounds that actually need to make it to my auditory sensors.
post #47 of 60
you must be soo proud.
post #48 of 60
People buy iPods because they're better; the fact that they're also cooler is just an added bonus.
post #49 of 60

but they're really not better

But they're really not better. As far as sound quality, the creative and rio products win hands down. In terms of size - they're all about equal. Interface, the Ipods USED TO have a major advantage, but not anymore (a bit subjective still though). And compatability - the Ipods are compatible with the itunes music store, .aac, and .mp3 ONLY. The other ones are compatible with almost every other music store out there, and much more file formats for the most part. And music stores have crappy sound quality with uber DRM anyways.... So the say that the Ipods are better is ignorant. I will admit their marketing is MUCH better...
post #50 of 60
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Originally Posted by ctski
you must be soo proud.
hehehe
post #51 of 60
I apologize for liking my iPod.
post #52 of 60
I confess that I haven't tried every single MP3 player on the market. However, the experience I have had with them has been less than positive. The fact that the iPod only recognizes a couple of formats doesn't matter at all, as their is very little that can't be had in either of those formats. iTunes does a fine job of converting formats.

I think that the fact that the iPod outsells all other portable music players combined speaks to the quality issue. The market has spoken, and it has said that iPods are better.
post #53 of 60

sales do not equal quality

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Originally Posted by Colossus178

I think that the fact that the iPod outsells all other portable music players combined speaks to the quality issue. The market has spoken, and it has said that iPods are better.
Unfortunately high sales numbers aren't always a good judge of quality. let me pose this question, whats a better beer say Miller or something like Sierra Nevada or Harpoon? What sells more, thats right the swill. Bud outsells them all and it tastes like bear piss. McDonalds does an incredible business and I wouldn't exactly call them high quality food either. Sometimes marketing and availability take over and quality gets forgotten.
post #54 of 60
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Originally Posted by dumpy
Sometimes marketing and availability take over and quality gets forgotten.
I'm very happy with the quality of my iPod. It's stable, reliable, easy to use, and very sturdy. I have no beefs with the quality of the product.

Does anyone have any specific complaints about iPods, other than that it isn't compatible with every media format ever created? Has anyone had any problems with iPods?
post #55 of 60
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Originally Posted by Colossus178
Has anyone had any problems with iPods?
Mine occassionally won't take a charge unless it's plugged into the computer - which is very annoying when you left your laptop at home so you wouldn't work during your weekend trip.

I also haven't tried all of the other mp3 players on the market, but I've tried several - and I ended up with the ipod after I never used the others. I saw tech idiots actually using their ipods, while my various other brand mp3 players stayed home. So I broke down, gave into the hegemony and bought a used 10gb on ebay. Now I actually listen to my music, instead of letting the mp3 player sit at home collecting dust...

J
post #56 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colossus178
Does anyone have any specific complaints about iPods, other than that it isn't compatible with every media format ever created? Has anyone had any problems with iPods?
I wish the Ipod had a removable battery. That's my biggest pet peave. When the battery eventually runs out I'd like to simply buy a new one and replace it or be able to swap with a fully charged one when the battery runs low. But it's still a great device. Compatibility is a non issue for me. Mp3 is fine. The interface is excellent. Is there any better in that department? the sound in my opinion is just fine (in fact I hear the video model is even better sound wise), It's rock solid, and as an added bonus mine has the signatures of U2 etched in the back!!
post #57 of 60
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Originally Posted by PA Ridge Racer
I wish the Ipod had a removable battery. That's my biggest pet peave. When the battery eventually runs out I'd like to simply buy a new one and replace it or be able to swap with a fully charged one when the battery runs low. But it's still a great device. Compatibility is a non issue for me. Mp3 is fine. The interface is excellent. Is there any better in that department? the sound in my opinion is just fine (in fact I hear the video model is even better sound wise), It's rock solid, and as an added bonus mine has the signatures of U2 etched in the back!!
Buy it at Costco, their return policy is second to none.
post #58 of 60
Burton also makes a coat designed specially for ipods, you can control your ipod with buttons on the sleeve
post #59 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
My iPod has three times the capacity of either Creative's or iRiver's largest capacity audio players, fwiw.
How the hell can u have a iPod with 120Gb??? For your info, iRiver have had 40Gb mp3 for as long as iPod has... It is this season that iPod have come with their 60Gb, which i assume you have when u say u have 3 times more...

Another thing that makes iRiver, which i have , so much better is that they have had the functions iPod come with now for atleast a years... I Bought my H320 (20Gb) 1 year ago, and it has a 2,5" lcd and 262.000 colors, i can show pictures and it can show movies... All it takes is a little bit of formating for the movie to look good, then you're entertained for a while... I've hade almost every MSP movie on my player, just as an example, in playable version of course... The iPod's movie feature isn't half as good, and it is a freaking year behind!!!
post #60 of 60
"Apple has about 75 percent of the worldwide market for digital music players, according to market research firm NPD Group."

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/techn...pple-ipod.html
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