Originally Posted by Cgrandy
Photo # 1 "looks" like the skier is going up hill. In a carve, pointing up hill is going up hill.
I can tell you 100%, that the skier wasn't going up hill. The skier was me. It might look like that because it was so steep. It's "trick photography". Now in that photo, you can see that I'm on an extremely high edge angle. But if you want to know, I was still slipping horizontally. Mainly due to the steepness of the slope and the hardness of the snow (it was fairly firm as they hadn't had snow in about a week). You can see that I'm working to manage pressure at the bottom of the turn due to the flexion in both legs. The shot is "spacewalk" in the Jackson back country, a roughly south facing chute that's WAY over 40 deg and a lot skinner than the 21 M radius of my skis. (Maybe Bob P can give us the details.)
Now in my view of the skiing world, skis skid, because we turn them faster and as a result build up more pressure on the skis than the edge angle can hold (with our speed, snow hardness and steepness factored into the equation). So our options at that point, to get the ski to hold, we can 1). Rotate the skis less (or less quickly), 2). Apply more edges or 3). Try other means to reduce the pressure on the skis. As you can see in the first photo, I'm doing 2 and 3 because 1 isn't an option (unless I wanted to stop by kissing the rock walls.
SSH, I won't disagree with what you said (they do push back some), but my view of that statement is that the skis aren't pushing back fully in a sideslip, they are falling away....