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post #1 of 27
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While not technically a ski-gear question, it does seem to be worth asking because there is (hopefully) a lot of reflected sun around on a good day. What's peoples recommendations for higher altitude sunscreen?
post #2 of 27
There's a lot of sun around pretty much any day on the slopes, unless there's a really thick cloud cover. I'll be taking over a tube of supermarket brand aussie sunscreen this season, after trying several types of American stuff over there and getting quite badly burned. My from-home supermarket stuff ran out early in my stay, so I tried several brands with disappointing results. Sunscreens and sunglasses/goggles are regulated by the Australian government to be as protective as they claim to be (and to a minimum standard), and judging by my experience, it is needed.

However, they sell Banana Boat in Australia, so I guess that is to be trusted. I find it a bit thick and greasy though. I remember using Coppertone block with good results (some skin irritants in it though). Some other good stuff I found was the Rocky Mountain stuff with the US ski team logo on it, that was good.

Get plenty of lip stuff too, have a tube in as many pockets as you've got! The lips dry out really fast and get burned at those altitudes, you want to be applying it early and often.
post #3 of 27
For what its worth, Ski Mag did a test of products last year using patrollers at Mammoth. http://www.skimag.com/skimag/gear/ar...680906,00.html

Personally, I use a Coppertone product http://www.coppertone.com/product.aspx?prodid=35 for all my outdoor activities and am extremely happy with it.

Glenn
"I know you can fight, it's our wits that make us men."
post #4 of 27
Great link. Some interesting info... years ago, the Oz gov't would only let sunscreens/blocks be labelled "15+" as a maximum, as the argument was that people would get careless if wearing higher rated ones and not wear hats/shirts etc. Now they label them at their true SPF, meanwhile the US gov't is going the other way!
I see two that I thought were OK get a guernsey on the ski mag tests (Dermatone and the Rocky Mountain stuff). I use Dermatone to protect the face against wind/extreme cold, but its sunscreen abilities are always welcome.

It was interesting how they commented about "rubbing it in" on many of the tests. To get full effectiveness from sunscreen, you want to coat the face thoroughly with the cream, but rubbing it in is not beneficial. The cream needs to dry as a coating on your skin. I usually put a thin layer on after my morning facewash, let it dry over breakfast, and then I smear a thicker layer on over the top. It usually looks white, but as it dries, the white stuff disappears.

I guess if you have darker skin, and don't have skin cancer in the family, it won't matter so much. In Oz, skin cancer is endemic across much of the population. I wear sunblock every day of the year.
post #5 of 27
We don't need sunscreen in the Northeast.

post #6 of 27
Coppertone Sport Spray. It is exspensive, but it works. I burn easily and I used spf 15 in Colorado and Idaho last year and never got burned once. For when I go to the beach I use spf 15 or 30, but skiing I use 15. Great stuff. Beware, it is an alcohol based spray and can be painful if you use it right after shaving.
Later
GREG
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by Scalce
We don't need sunscreen in the Northeast.

I did!

btw, sun causes wrinkles. Look at your inner arm someday. That's what your face would look like, if it wasn't for the sun.
post #8 of 27
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Originally Posted by skidad55
While not technically a ski-gear question, it does seem to be worth asking because there is (hopefully) a lot of reflected sun around on a good day. What's peoples recommendations for higher altitude sunscreen?

hi

i can recommend

www.himaya.com

i used it for biking and working in the sun for the whole day. you can not sweat it of easy and sticks to the skin (and not everywhere else).


post #9 of 27
personally, I swear by Bullfrog. I get burned all the time, and I have to say that Bullfrog has outlasted every other sunscreen/sunblock that I have ever used and has worked the best for me.
post #10 of 27

Post padding

Sunscreen is good, I recommend it when the sun is shining.
My white goo of choise? HAWAIIAN Tropic 45plus with EXTENDED WATERPROOF
post #11 of 27
Look for stuff with Mexoryl as the protectant. It's not yet available "legally" in the US, but provides unsurpassed UVA & UVB protection. The patent is held by a French company, and that might be why the FDA has not addressed the submission (think Freedom Fries). It's great stuff -- the only stuff that keeps my Irish genes from bugging out on the slopes. Available in Canada, Europe, and some stores in the US (I think Cambridge Chemists in NYC sells it mail order, but charge a bundle for it).
post #12 of 27
what's that stuff in the round tin to shield your face from the wind? I just use that, since it has a sunscreen in it.

it's greasy, but it does seem to help with the cold here in the northeast, and I don't burn either.
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by skidiver
what's that stuff in the round tin to shield your face from the wind? I just use that, since it has a sunscreen in it.

it's greasy, but it does seem to help with the cold here in the northeast, and I don't burn either.
Dermatone, I think.
post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by tetsuma
Dermatone, I think.
yep, that's it. thanks!
post #15 of 27
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Originally Posted by ant
I did!

btw, sun causes wrinkles. Look at your inner arm someday. That's what your face would look like, if it wasn't for the sun.
I was just kidding.

I use Dermatone on cold and windy days and Coppertone Sport on sunny Spring days.
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by skidad55
While not technically a ski-gear question, it does seem to be worth asking because there is (hopefully) a lot of reflected sun around on a good day. What's peoples recommendations for higher altitude sunscreen?
SNIK

Leaves you honey bronzed and very very desirable
post #17 of 27

My picks for the best protection

Bullfrog (45-50 SPF version)

Labiosan salve - for lips (heavy duty compared to others)
post #18 of 27
I have had really bad reactions to sunscreen (broken out in hives) so I looked around for a hypoallergenic one. The only ones I can find are the for babies and they smell like baby powder. I use it anyway even though I don't like the smell.

Does anyone know of a sunscreen that doesn't smell like powder and is hypoallergenic?
post #19 of 27
I am very fair and have blond hair. I have tried just about everything as I am in the sun most days out of the year, especially at altitude.

I have found Skin Ceuticals Sport UV 45 to be the best there is. In the past, I always got a red nose even though my sunscreens claimed they had zinc in them. SC still gives me raccoon face, but I never get burned anymore.

It has no smell and is not greasy at all. It also doesn't leave a white film on my face like other zinc sunscreens do.

Just my recommendation

LU WHOO
post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by Posaune
I have had really bad reactions to sunscreen (broken out in hives) so I looked around for a hypoallergenic one. The only ones I can find are the for babies and they smell like baby powder. I use it anyway even though I don't like the smell.

Does anyone know of a sunscreen that doesn't smell like powder and is hypoallergenic?
Same problem, Sun Sense works for me, is available in Oz, but wouldn't know about elsewhere.
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by ant
Great link. Some interesting info... years ago, the Oz gov't would only let sunscreens/blocks be labelled "15+" as a maximum, as the argument was that people would get careless if wearing higher rated ones and not wear hats/shirts etc. Now they label them at their true SPF, meanwhile the US gov't is going the other way!
I see two that I thought were OK get a guernsey on the ski mag tests (Dermatone and the Rocky Mountain stuff). I use Dermatone to protect the face against wind/extreme cold, but its sunscreen abilities are always welcome.

It was interesting how they commented about "rubbing it in" on many of the tests. To get full effectiveness from sunscreen, you want to coat the face thoroughly with the cream, but rubbing it in is not beneficial. The cream needs to dry as a coating on your skin. I usually put a thin layer on after my morning facewash, let it dry over breakfast, and then I smear a thicker layer on over the top. It usually looks white, but as it dries, the white stuff disappears.

I guess if you have darker skin, and don't have skin cancer in the family, it won't matter so much. In Oz, skin cancer is endemic across much of the population. I wear sunblock every day of the year.
no ant -I believe government still restricts upper limit on sunscreen in OZ - just higher - now 30+

The better sunscreens will maintain the 30+ level after 4 hours in the water (for water resistant) etc etc....
The ego one I use goes on as 100+ but as reality sets in (people sweat, scratch nose etc) the 4 hour level is unlikely to be better than 30+.... hence the 30+ labelling....

When surfing in lanzarote my 30+ water resistant suncreen from Oz was beating the British 50+ waterproof on hands down (& did not sting the skin of the poor girl who was burnt to a crisp already)
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by Taxman
Same problem, Sun Sense works for me, is available in Oz, but wouldn't know about elsewhere.
Ego Sunsense Sunsensitive sunscreen is ONLY titanium dioxide - hence the 20+ not 30+ rating.... However it is very rare for it to cause allergies (no perfumes lanolin, etc etc etc in any Ego product).....
post #23 of 27
Oh if anyone is trying to get Ego stuff their website is

www.egopharm.com.au
post #24 of 27
grrr they have renamed the sunsensitive again....

seems it is now labelled "Low Irritant"
post #25 of 27
Yep, thats the stuff disski, although I thought I had a low irritant version in a 30+? I also use their sports version in 40+ when surfing, just a bit gooey for skiing.
post #26 of 27
I am very fair and burn right away when exposed to the sun and my dermotologist told me to wear sunblcok from May to October every day and in winter when there is sun and snow or at high altitude...but...

Since I wear wrap around sunglasses for skiing every sunblock I tried had my eyes watering.
Then I found www.sunblocks.com or www.solrx.com which sells a 44 SPF 8 hour sunblock that I use over my whole face including eyelids and it will not sweat into my eyes I don't even know it is there with goggles...

It's not cheap, they market it with labels from 'Rubber Ducky' for children to 'Golf' and 'Sports Fishing'.

I questioned them about all their different 44 products and they said it's all the same stuff. The SolrX or Rubber Ducky in the 6 oz size for $14 is the best buy.

.....Ott
post #27 of 27
Disski,
The labelling is regulated by gov't, but the contents can be any SPF over the labelled SPF. So a 30+ can contain sPF 70. They never restricted the contents, just the labelling. so long as the contents are at or above the labelled SPF, it's fine.

Back when it was limited to 15+, you could work out that one of the Banana Boat sun creams was actually 45+ as the tube was the same, they'd just stencilled the "15" over the top.
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