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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity
I'll chime in here.
I used to like a stiff ski. But about 4 years ago, when I began to work on my skills and begin the ski better, I find I like a softer ski. May be this is why I'm so in love with Volkl's All Mountain skis. My AX3's are such a joy to ski. I have found that when I ski on Atomic skis they seem to give me a ruff ride, the Volkl's are smoother over the same trail. I used to like Atomic until I got on Volkl's. I have been on Volkl's since the G30. I have also had Atomics during this same time. I haven't skied my 10EX's much in the last two years.
I find the softer Volkl's quicker and easier to ski.
The only thing I'll say Max is that across all of the ski manufacturers I wouldn't consider Volkl one of the reputed "soft" ski makers. Most people don't think Volkl and think soft skis. Yes, they may be a bit softer than your experience on Atomics, but they are still at the upper end of "firm" across most of their line (except skis like the Gotama and the Sanouk).
post #32 of 46

Is this a mounting position thread?

Who cares about mounting position?

How about those MANTRAS!?!?!?!?

Three weeks till I get on mine!!!!!!!

(I already went skiing on my other set up saturday in 14 inches of pow on hood.)

post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by ski nose popsicle
Who cares about mounting position?

How about those MANTRAS!?!?!?!?

Three weeks till I get on mine!!!!!!!

(I already went skiing on my other set up saturday in 14 inches of pow on hood.)

With the snow we're getting here I sure wish I had a pair. I heard they're sold out at Volkl and they're going for your first born at most shops right now. Just please tell me you're not going to mount Markers on them!
post #34 of 46
If your really looking? You might want to try some Tahoe / Reno Ski shops, they loaded both barrels with Mantra's and other Fatties. No snow and I think they are getting desperate, they never see the big picture. Its always what did you sell this week? not what they will have in stock in December / January.
post #35 of 46
Noodler: Excellent reviews. Right up there with Steve's - even though you had different perspectives. Good move on stealing Steve's format. I plan to do the same next time I review a ski for Epic.

My experience on the M:EX's was virtually identical to yours, the first time I tried 'em. I was amazed at how smooth they were over uneven terrain, flexing and absorbing everything, yet they still held like an ice skate. I have last year's model, and they're indispensable to my quiver.

The Metron B:5's, I understand, aren't everyone's cup of tea. It's a radical design that rewards a certain type of style. If it's right for you, the feeling is pure magic.

I just bought the 06 Sugar Daddy's (haven't tried 'em yet). Reading your report, however, I'm wondering if I should have opted for the Mantra's instead. I love the idea of quick turn initiation on a big ski. One down-side: I've heard the top-edges get chopped-up quick - not unlike the Explosives.

I'm interested to try the Volkl Unlimited.

Again, excellent report! Thanks!
post #36 of 46
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Originally Posted by Captain_Strato
Mantra's - I've heard the top-edges get chopped-up quick - not unlike the Explosives.
That's too funny - that was one of the first things I was thinking about as I carried the Mantras to the lift. I noticed that they didn't use tip protectors like so many other skis do these days. I have no idea how many runs the demos had on them, but the tips were remarkably clean and only the metal edges showed any nicks - the top sheet was completely untouched in that area. I guess if you were really worried about it you could throw some Ski Saver Tape (do they still make that stuff?) on the tips.
post #37 of 46
Noodler, great review. Thanks for the post.

Just my .02, I found the 184 Mantra to be much more stable than the 184 AC4, which is opposite of what you experienced.

HB
post #38 of 46
I know this discussion is old, but it’s a great one and very relevant to me. So if you can get your head back into it, would like some follow on.

A couple things: 1) I’m looking for new skis (one pair) and 2) am intrigued by mounting preferences, their reasons and results.

1) Noodle commented on the Blizzard: I bet lighter skiers would really like the Titan Eight as a nice all-terrain ski.

Well – I’m a lighter skier – female, 5’7”. Skied the Blizzard yesterday. I wasn’t able to put it to the test (skiing locally and we only have hills nearby), but I did get it through some ice and a steep, but very short, hill. I found the Blizzard surprisingly nimble (tight turns), easy to put on edge, and pretty stable. How would you compare the Dynastar and Mantras (two others you skied that I’m considering)?

Looking for a good all mountain ski. I ski out west and ski moguls, powder and trees and use the groomers just to warm up/practice technique and get to the other terrain. My last skis (just sold them) were Head Monster i.70s. Were good when I got them, but my style, terrain preference and ability has changed over the past 4 years. Most noticeable, the Heads didn’t handle as well in moguls as others b/c they didn’t seem to absorb the shock. (Not a zipper line mogul skier (yet ). Do not like the Bandits – too soft, not stable

2) Have heard that you mount more forward for women (about 1 cm) on unisex skis. On some Heads I demo’d, they mounted the bindings 1 cm behind center. Hard to stay forward and any mistake popped me well in the back seat. Then, when they moved the biding 1 cm forward of center, all was well. Anyone care to elaborate on this?

Thanks and hope are all somewhere that the big snow storms hit last week enjoying the thigh-high powder.
post #39 of 46
Thread Starter 
Well this certainly is an old thread being resurrected. I just re-read it to get back in the flow of what was discussed...

Your best bet for fore/aft mounting position info is to search on BoF or "Ball of Foot". We've had quite a few good discussions on how the binding mounting position can affect your skiing.

I believe that there is a difference between the '05-'06 and the '06-'07 Blizzard Titan Eight - so be careful reading too much into the older reviews of this ski. Most likely you rode the newer version. I think the Legend 8000 is probably not a bad pick for you either as if I recall correctly the two skis did have some similarities for me.

The Mantra is a whole other animal entirely. My strong recommendation is that you just try to find a demo of it while skiing out west and make your own opinion. It's just a very different kind of ski compared to the other two.

Any ski with a Railflex binding may be a good choice for you since you can adjust your fore/aft position with it (although that position is a bit limited) OR you should consider some of the many women's specific skis that are now available.
post #40 of 46
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
(I use the BoF method - on German/Austrian skis the BoF method's position is typically 20-25mm forward of the manufacturer's midsole mark for me).
I'm not sure, but maybe this explains how you can ski your boots straight up without forward lean shims. You don't have to lean much because your weight is already forward on the ski.
post #41 of 46
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
Well this certainly is an old thread being resurrected. I just re-read it to get back in the flow of what was discussed....
Wow - appreciate the diligence in reading through and replying - thanks!

[quote=Noodler;661910]
The Mantra is a whole other animal entirely. My strong recommendation is that you just try to find a demo of it while skiing out west and make your own opinion. It's just a very different kind of ski compared to the other two.
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You have my curiosity up! Can you elaborate on how it differs?

From what you wrote last year, it seemed like the Legend 8000 and Titan Eight might suite me. I'll try to demo the Legend 8000 and the Mantra when I ski again in March. And am definitely looking at women specific skies. So far, all I hear is about the K2 line of women's skis. Am checking in SkiDiva site for other options.

Thanks for spelling out BoF -didn't know what that was... Will check it out, too.

Thanks for the advice!
post #42 of 46

Women Specific Mantra

If you are looking for a women's specific Mantra Volkl makes the Aura, which is exactly that. Same dimensions as the Mantra. Skied with some friends at Taos a couple days after a 26" dump. He had Mantras and loved them so much he bought his wife some Auras. In the course of two days I saw her ski every kind of terrain and snow condition you can think of and she ripped it all on the Auras. I don't know exactly how they are different from the Mantras but you may want to check them out.
post #43 of 46
Thanks for the advice - I checked out them online. Now that I look at them and the Mantras, they seem a little wide for me. Must have misread the dimentions the first time around.
I'm going from a 70mm waist (Head Monsters) so thought I'd stay closer to the 80/85mm range. The Karma's or Queen Attiva might ease me into the wider waists. Thoughts?
post #44 of 46
Philplug

The Titan Nine is a completely different ski. They do have a titanium layer and will ski almost any conditions well (icy crud - poor but what ski does that well). THere is a pretty big difference in how the 188cm skis over the 181cm with a general preference for the former.

If you are interested in a pair see the gear sale section, if you can get over to Keystone you can test drive mine (which are the ones for sale).
post #45 of 46
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Originally Posted by Andrew R View Post
Philplug

The Titan Nine is a completely different ski. They do have a titanium layer and will ski almost any conditions well (icy crud - poor but what ski does that well). THere is a pretty big difference in how the 188cm skis over the 181cm with a general preference for the former.

If you are interested in a pair see the gear sale section, if you can get over to Keystone you can test drive mine (which are the ones for sale).
Andrew, I have Nines in a 181 as my everyday ski and love them. I tried the Eights in a 169 and it felt too small for me and not enough ski. If Dalbello was still had Blizzard for next year, I would have a whole quiver of Blizzards...they are some sweet skies.
post #46 of 46
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Originally Posted by Andrew R View Post
Philplug

The Titan Nine is a completely different ski. They do have a titanium layer and will ski almost any conditions well (icy crud - poor but what ski does that well). THere is a pretty big difference in how the 188cm skis over the 181cm with a general preference for the former.

If you are interested in a pair see the gear sale section, if you can get over to Keystone you can test drive mine (which are the ones for sale).
The Titan Eights are for sale or Nine's? If they're Eights, what size? I don't plan on getting back to Colorado this year, but thanks for the offer!
How do the Nines differer from the Eights?

Thanks!
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