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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Looks like I am getting some skis. I am helping a shop get on their feet and for my consulting fee, I am gonna get some gear. I have access to K2, Blizzard Goode and Volant. I want something fat for powder days and out west. Since Volant doesn't have a Chubb anymore, they are out. So...

K2
Apache Outlaw
Seth Vicious

Blizzard
Sigma Titan 9/Pro

Goode
Carbon 95 (a stretch $$ wise)

I have some Salomon 912's w/ wide brakes, if I go with the Apache Outlaws do I need to go with the Marker Piston? It is not so much that I don't want the Marker, I don't wan't to be greedy. Any other thoughts?
post #2 of 20
Volant M2.: C'mon Phil, if you get them and review them, that will probably be as close as I'll ever get to them (rumor has it that a special agreement required for purchase of new Volants stipulates that they can only used at the most exclusive resorts). If you don't like them you can sell them to me, er......once my funds recover a bit.
post #3 of 20
From what I am hearing and reading.....no contest:
Seth V's

Plus you could always sell them to me
post #4 of 20
i will take the outlaws
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volantaddict
Volant M2.: C'mon Phil, if you get them and review them, that will probably be as close as I'll ever get to them (rumor has it that a special agreement required for purchase of new Volants stipulates that they can only used at the most exclusive resorts). If you don't like them you can sell them to me, er......once my funds recover a bit.
Only if I can get them with the EMB 412's

I am intrigued by the Goode 95's. I have to see how much they will be.
post #6 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Only if I can get them with the EMB 412's
Well for a true gear afficionado, the sheer frivolity of that combination would be quite a coup. Phil, I truely envy you your choice.
post #7 of 20
Go Blizzard, be different. I am from the home of K2's (Vashon Island,WA,just outside Seattle, I know china now)race boards are still made here. Never skied on one I liked!

I tried an Mapache Recon last year, yikes! dead, unremarkable, boring.

I take it back I did ski on a pair of Phil Mahre's oldest sons Experimental Race Stock GS for 2005/06 at Mt. bachelor last year. 1st K2 I kind of liked (still dead as a door nail)coming from Atomic Phil P. the k2's are going to seem really sleepy!
post #8 of 20
Apache Chiefs are pretty sweet - why not on the list. They carve and snap turns surprisingly easy for 98mm waist ski. I've skied both that and I have the VR2 Chubb and the Chief is just as easy (if not easier), lighter and handles speed better. Haven't skied the viscious - vibe I get is it's got too much shape with too "progressive" a flex (softer front, stiffer tail) for me.

Titan 9 all the way though!! Fairly light, perfect flex, agile for a 92mm waist...I'm getting one for touring....not sure how it compares to the outlaw.

The carbon 95s are supposedly VERY light to the point they get deflected in crud - don't know for sure just read about it - makes a nice touring setup I suppose.

Actually, if these are free take the outlaw, sell it on ebay for $600 and buy a titan 9 and pocket a few hundred bucks.
post #9 of 20
IMO the K2 Seth Vicious has the graphics that just express the real you . Aside from that the 130/98/118mm profile is just the best of the bunch. You would be very happy with that ski in powder or soft conditions getting to the powder. Throw in the possibility of landing switch and why would anyone even think twice. This is it.:
post #10 of 20
Vicous or the titan (limited sizing on both)

the goodes are not the way to go
post #11 of 20
Oh, my bill is in the mail. In this case, I'll have what you're having/

BTW, you need 189 in this ski to blow away Highway Star on the big hucks. Don't worry, the ski is soft, twin tipped and intimidated by old guys like us.

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Consulting at Large LLC
post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by X-EastCoaster
Apache Chiefs are pretty sweet - why not on the list. They carve and snap turns surprisingly easy for 98mm waist ski. I've skied both that and I have the VR2 Chubb and the Chief is just as easy (if not easier), lighter and handles speed better. Haven't skied the viscious - vibe I get is it's got too much shape with too "progressive" a flex (softer front, stiffer tail) for me.

Titan 9 all the way though!! Fairly light, perfect flex, agile for a 92mm waist...I'm getting one for touring....not sure how it compares to the outlaw.

The carbon 95s are supposedly VERY light to the point they get deflected in crud - don't know for sure just read about it - makes a nice touring setup I suppose.
Hmm, I didn't notice the Chiefs were a 98mm waste. I will add them to the list. 90-100 is my waste range so all three of these are there. I have never been a big k2 fan, but I do respect their product. Right now I am leaning

1. Goode 95, I just think these will be real cool to have for a powder day.
2. Titan 9 or Pro, Like the Goode, I can put my Salomons on them and It keeps a bit of my affiliation with Dallbelo/Blizzard
3. K2 something. Need to get them with bindings (I got tons of bindings around), might limit me from also getting some extra Kryptons.
post #13 of 20

choices

Good going Phil:

New gear without new cash outlay...it dosent get better than that!

May I suggest Outlaws in 167.

Yes, I know that my be blasphemy to some but the word is they are a blast in that lenght and you will defintly be able to get a good amount of use out of 'em in Vermont.

Do get 'em flat if you don't want to jack up your consulting fee to include the intergrated Marker piston set up. Or, on the other hand, do go for the IBX, if they have more of those in stock I suppose you would be helping them out by grabing what they have more stock of.

Boo Yeah.

Seths would be fun too, but you may not be able to handle the graphics and they are not as manueverable as the Outlaws.
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
Hmm, those Chiefs look like the ticket if I go with the K2's, I like the idea of more sidecut. I am thinking about a 180-185 length.
post #15 of 20
If you have no need to turn in small radius situation how about the K2 Maden Ak in 179?
post #16 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Hmm, those Chiefs look like the ticket if I go with the K2's, I like the idea of more sidecut. I am thinking about a 180-185 length.
Great ski - a 181cm will be easy and versatile enough to bring it out on soft/spring days in the East and let you rock out West (188 if always in the West). Thinking about it the viscious wouldn't be bad - in the east the big shape would help in tight places - the flex may seem weird though. In case you are curious - the Maden AK/Kahuna (same ski) is very wide (105mm I think) and very FLOPPY - it actually can smear turns very quick in soft snow but it's really for deep pow only and will not really work at all in the East (those old blue Kahunas with the white stripe are the best looking ski...ever!!).

The Titan Pro is a MONSTER of a ski and only comes in a 193cm - I have a friend who's a Blizzard rep who told me it was way too much ski for him (and he was a sponsored skier a few years back).

Chief (181) or Titan 9 (181) all the way... the 9 will not 'porpoise' quite as well as the Chief in the deep stuff but it will add that much more quickness and versatility - esp for the East. I don't know much about the Outlaw but it's probably a nice even more versatile choice that you'd get tons of use out of (I don't think YOU need to go 167cm though - go 181).

Hope I've helped and not confused...
post #17 of 20
Titan Pro's
post #18 of 20
Phile I think you will like the Chief for powder. I got mine short 174 for trees. It has a large sweet spot turns on a dime and still has some guts to hang in there when you just let them run. I have heard a lot of very positive things about the Seth Vicius. A lot of that positive feed back came from people who normally put down any K2 ever made.
post #19 of 20
185 cm You da Man!
post #20 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
Titan Pro's
With p18's flat mounted.
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