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post #1 of 17
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Looking for some opinions on Rossi RPM 21's. Have an opportunity to purchase a pair cheap(and new). I am a heavy, hard charger when opportunity presents itself, and have been skiing about 30 of my 33yrs. These would primarily be used to chase my kids around on our local hill here in the midwest. I do ski 15 or so days out west each year, and usually I like to demo skis just to try different setups.

I have always heard that Rossi is not the best fit for a heavier skier. I am about 6' and 255lbs. While skiing is my first love, football paid for my education, so I might be doomed to being heavy for a while(6ys later I still haven't taken the weight off!). Back in the day, I has a pair of Rossi 4s and loved them. Since then my only frame of referrance would be one day on the B2's last spring which was very enjoyable.

Any help appreciated.
post #2 of 17
You will like these skis, just about everyone who has skied them does. They are burly for Rossis. Basically, they are the same ski as the 2003 Bandit XX, but they have a riser plate which adds abit of stiffness. The lift helps to make for better carving then the XX. This is not a ski for lightweights.
post #3 of 17
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I pm'd canyons this as a follow up, but I should put it out there for anyone who might be able to help. Thanks all.

Canyons, thanks for the advice on the RPM 21's. Another question would be, I would like to pair them with either Rossi or Look bindings. All I can find on ebay is the axial pro lifter. Specs say the lifter adds 6mm. Is this setup going to work, or should I hold out for a regular axial, or go with a different binding.

Thanks for your help.
post #4 of 17
Use the rossi lifter.
With the ski having a lift, you may feel a little "tall" but you then have the option of removing the lift.
The plate comes predrilled for Rossi/Look so you don't rally have any other option's.
Note The Rossi FKS/Look counterpart will not work, due to different heel drill patterns
post #5 of 17
The RPM 21 is the Bandit XX with a GS racing plate on them. The result is a ski that skis different than the Bandit XX.....I've owned both. The RPM 21 is more stable at speed and has better edge hold on hard snow. It's edge to edge is more sluggish than the Bandit XX and it doesn't have as much spring.
post #6 of 17
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What about the B2's? Any thoughts?
post #7 of 17
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Is anyone currently skiing the RPM 21's? Any in your quiver? If so, what kind of bindings are mounted one them. All I can seem to find out there are Rossi or Look lifter models.

Advice?
post #8 of 17
I still have my 177cm RPM 21s. They are currently mounted with Rossignol Axial 140 without lifters. The 140s were a lifter model that worked great on the RPM 21s but I wanted more lift on some other skis so I took the lifters off the RPM 21s.
post #9 of 17
I started the same search for a slightly different purpose (Fat ski)

I ended up being told that I could not add a riser plate additionaly to the binding as the riser plate mounting screws were a bigger dimension that that of the look binding mount screws and therefore if I did so, it would void the warranty. I was confused but accepted this and mounted only the Look P-10's with the 6mm riser plate using only the Look mounting screws.

I hear discussions on the Vist Riser plates as well as some other brands. Racers use them under their bindings of differing manufactuers on differing types os skis, so why can't Johnny Q public.

I am sure that there are riser plates that mount with hardware similar in size to the Look mounting hardware and therefore warranty would not be an issue. I am also sure there are risers that are simply peices of plastic that are not specific to any manufacture mounting configuration, but allow mounting points on the plate outside of any binding manufacturer's mounting configuration.

I know Dynastar uses a nice plastic toe and heel with a rubber flexible material inbetween, that is flat on the bottom for the entire lenght.

I know Rossi still uses the "Super Twin Deck" on their Axium and Saphire line up.

I did find in my research that many of the skis today are not flat on top but have differing widths and thicknesses requiring specific dimensions for the use of a rise plate.

Remember the ole days when you just walked into a store, said "Ug, give me plate, Ug mount my binding" and presto whamo it was done.

I think this subject warrants far more discussion, perhaps there is something I just don't understand. I do recall plates are a good thing if you want more turning power and quicker edge to edge. Why has the use of risers fallen out of use?

Plately Confused
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Marmot mb,

Thanks for the info. These particular ski's come with a riser already attached to the ski. I can't imagine that if I tried to mount the Rossi axial lifter(or looks equiv) it wouldn't work. My question more pertains to mounting with out the lifter the binding comes with. Not sure how much I lift I want, but all I seem to be able to find is the lifter or T-plate version(which I think is a similar concept). I don't want to spend the money and find out it will not work, or is not what I want(height wise). The bindings won't be mounted until I get to Vail in the first week of Dec as I am going specifically to get new boots(and to ski of course).
post #11 of 17
I bought the RPM's last season to use as a play ski with price considerations, also. Used an old pair of Axial 140's (actually the first years' model). They worked fine except they had to bend the brakes out a bit to work.

I like the ski on groomed and soft conditions. Pow is a bit iffy and real heavy slush is no fun. The skis are a bit stiff for the ungroomed and deeper fluff and require a real commitment to going downhill (fast).
post #12 of 17
I have had the RPM21 for two seasons now. They are a great pair of skis. They are fast and very stable at high speeds and bust thru crud no problem. At 110/74/100 they are a midfat and float nicely in the powder. They are a good all around ski. I ski the 184cm using the Axial 140 Pro with risers. I use them exclusively and don't feel the need to use any of my other 6 pair of skis (Unless somebody wanted to buy me a new pair of B1's or B2's). I am 5-10, 225lbs and I ski like to ski fast and I can't beat these skis into submission. They are a great pair of skis.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Rossiskier
I have had the RPM21 for two seasons now. They are a great pair of skis. They are fast and very stable at high speeds and bust thru crud no problem. At 110/74/100 they are a midfat and float nicely in the powder. They are a good all around ski. I ski the 184cm using the Axial 140 Pro with risers. I use them exclusively and don't feel the need to use any of my other 6 pair of skis (Unless somebody wanted to buy me a new pair of B1's or B2's). I am 5-10, 225lbs and I ski like to ski fast and I can't beat these skis into submission. They are a great pair of skis.
Rossiskier

Thanks for the info. I am assuming the riser you refer to is the 6mm lifter. Do you ski bumps with them? How do they perform? It isn't that I ski bumps often, but I usually take a trip each year with the family and one(or two depending on how lucky I am!) with the guys. Inevitably we will ski bumps for half a day once or twice, so I would like them to work there. Do you think the binding could be left out if need be?

Your thoughts....
post #14 of 17
If you can handle the comments about the RPM's being the ugliest ski ever made (probably true!), you won't even notice the difference with the lifters .
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Warlord
If you can handle the comments about the RPM's being the ugliest ski ever made (probably true!), you won't even notice the difference with the lifters .
The Mt. Viper 9.9 is much uglier. The RPM 21 is louder, but not nearly as tacky.

As for moguls, the RPM 21 works fine for me for two reasons. One, I live where the moguls are bigger.....they're not ideal for tightly packed mini-moguls. The other reason is the plate allows me to ski them in a shorter length than I would ski the Bandit XX.
post #16 of 17

Rpm 21

This may be a little late but did you get the RPM 21's? I didn't there was a pair left out there. I hope for your sake you bought them but if you didn't could you let me know? I have a friend who tried mine and as of a few months ago we couldn't find any. I can't comment on the bindings, I don't remember what I have. I ski the east and this ski can handle anything for weather. It's great in crud, ice, groomed and powder. Moguls, well the ski is stiff so you may want to rent for that week.
post #17 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danaellenus
This may be a little late but did you get the RPM 21's? I didn't there was a pair left out there. I hope for your sake you bought them but if you didn't could you let me know? I have a friend who tried mine and as of a few months ago we couldn't find any. I can't comment on the bindings, I don't remember what I have. I ski the east and this ski can handle anything for weather. It's great in crud, ice, groomed and powder. Moguls, well the ski is stiff so you may want to rent for that week.
I ended up passing on the rpm 21's in favor of a Nordica SUV. There is always a pair or two on Ebay. In fact for the price, I might just pick a pair up anyway.
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