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Help with, A/T Boots

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
What are your thoughts and impressions of these two A/T Boots.
The Dynafit TLT 700, The other Boot is The Lowa Strukura Evo.
Any info on fit? How are they for walking? What would be the better performing boot for skiing? Any drew backs to either of these Boots? Any feedback would be helpful
post #2 of 19
I saw your post just after you put it up and thought you'd get a few replies.

I cannot comment on the Dynafits, but I like my Struktura's for general comfort, climbing etc. They are about as comfy as my bedroom slippers.

That being said, I am probably going to change to Adrenilin's or Tornado's (when they hit the stores), depending on fit. I ski Launchers w/Naxos and use them for backcountry and lift serviced terrain.

For more gentle terrain, I really like the Strukturas, but when things get tougher, I miss the support of my downhill boots so I am going to move to something a bit stiffer.

I also ski Atomic 10.20's and Fischer RX/9 with Tecnica Explosiv boots, just to give you an idea what I am comparing to.

YMMV
post #3 of 19
Utah49:

I'm pm'd you the other day. I hope you got it.

I've never skied the Lowas, so I can't help much there. I used to own a pair of Dynafit TLT 4's but that was some time ago. They fit like gloves, climbed like hiking shoes, and skied a bit better than my old leather Asolo tele boots.

I moved away from the Dynafits because they really weren't that good at driving a modern, bigger ski in junky or slick conditions.

Unfortunately, I can't comment on the newer Dynafit boots because I haven't tried any in about six years.
post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by SkiMerlin
I cannot comment on the Dynafits, but I like my Struktura's for general comfort, climbing etc. They are about as comfy as my bedroom slippers.
Which version of the Struktura are you commenting on? The three-buckle one-piece-tongue versions (i.e., EVO, or Lite w/ one-piece tongue inserted) are typical stiffness for an all-around-style AT boot, the hinged-tongue version (i.e., original, GTX, or Lite w/ hinged tongue inserted) have a great touring gait but are on the soft side for skiing. (By contrast, the two new four-buckle Lowa boot are about as stiff as any AT boots get.)
Anyway, back to the original post:
The TLT 700 was intended as Dynafit's all-around style AT boot, competing with then-rivals like the Scarpa Laser, Garmont G-Ride, and Struktura EVO. It's softer than its contemporaneous rivals, although still roughly in the same category.
Also, if the TLT 700 you're contemplating comes with a Thermoliner, than it's much lighter (and warmer) than the EVO. If not, then probably about the same weight.
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input. The boot was the evo and they also have the one with the liner. Sierra trading company.com has those boots on sale one pair is $250 the other $300 I wish someone local had the Garmont Adrenaline in my size 25 or a 25.5 The smallest I have seen is 26 and the fit was sloppy. Looks like a great boot for both inbounds and for past the ropes. On the other hand it is over $600.00 and just not in my budget this year.
post #6 of 19
Teton Village Sports here in JH has some new Scarpa Lazers on sale for $175. If that interests you at all, I can check on sizes.

Here's what a pair looks like :

post #7 of 19
If those Lasers are the final year's version w/ the Thermoflex liner, then that is one crazy deal: although not longer imported in the U.S., it's still a current in-line boot over in Euroland. A bit softer than the Matrix, but a bit lighter too. Scarpa really hasn't improve that much on the Laser since its 1998 introduction (except for slipping in some other company's liner), but that just shows how advanced it was for its day, as it's still a competitive boot.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Shefftz
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Scarpa really hasn't improve that much on the Laser since its 1998 introduction

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My GOD!!!!!!

Are my boots really that OLD???? :

I'm going shopping tomorrow.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
Here's what a pair looks like :

Isn't there someone missing in this picture? Perhaps there is something wrong with my internet connection, but isn't it a Vampire that can't be photographed?
post #10 of 19
I bought myself another pair of Lasers from BackcountryOutlet.com this summer, I love my current pair and have yet to find a boot to replace them that offers the same weight, touring ability, ski performance. But really the main thing is they just fit my feet so darn well, much better then the Lowa and Garmont boots I've tried on.

I owned a pair of Lowa Structura Evos. It's a good, stiff AT boot. Didn't fit my high instep correctly, so they got almost no use after I got my Laser's and I sold them this summer. But they seemed like a great boot if they fit correctly.
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks Bob, The Scarpa lazer is just a little to narrow for my foot.
post #12 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah49
Thanks Bob, The Scarpa lazer is just a little to narrow for my foot.
fwiw, the matrix is supposed to replace the laser and is made for a slightly wider foot. this years matrix will be a little stiffer than last. at the end of the season there should be a big sell off since BD will no longer distribute scarpa.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Sinter
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since BD will no longer distribute scarpa.

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Wow - I didn't know that. Do you know if Scarpa is going to distribute in the US themselves?

What up?
post #14 of 19

Scarpa vrs the rest of the world

FWIW; I and the three guys I ride with all switched from Scarpa Lasers to other boots in the last year -- to Scapra Denali, Garmont Adrenalines, G-rides or Megarides. We all agree on one thing -- the venerable old Lasers are just not enough boot for fatties in PNW cement. I consider the switch to Megarides to be the best equipment upgrade I have made since switching to contact lenses 5 years ago.
post #15 of 19
Assuming that's a stock/unmodified MegaRide, the Laser with a Flexon tongue substituted for the original tongue is a stiffer boot than the MegaRide.
post #16 of 19
Ya, I guess you could goof around trying to fix the Lasers. Maybe a cast iron tongue would make it even stiffer. I found a simpler solution -- get a better boot!

I don't really think a lack of stiffness against forward lean is what I didn't like about the Lasers. I'm not into that fighting forward againt the front of the boot thingie. That works for area skiing, I suppose, but in deep PNW slop, you really want to be more centered on the ski. In fact, occasionally we bounce off the back of the boots to get the tips up on a plane, and the Lasers just don't put up with that pop off the back of the boot move.
post #17 of 19
For my two cents' worth, I've been skiing Strukturas for the last 2 years and love them. Very comfortable and ski extremely well, but they are a bit on the heavy side. Mine are the older version, which I got a good deal on because they were switching to the lighter thermofit liner.
post #18 of 19
Unlike the satirical reference to a cast-iron tongue, swapping in a Flexon tongue is free (or close to it, depending on the source), very easy, carries no weight penalty, yet significantly improves the downhill performance (tightening up the entire upper cuff), with only a small effect on the skinning stride. (Those other mentioned boots are all fine choices too, with their own pluses & minuses, but retrofitting a Flexon tongue is hardly an exotic or complicated modification.)
Here’s the tongue (not visible) in action coming off the summit of Shasta on the Hotlum-Wintun route:
http://jshefftz2.photosite.com/JeffS...Pics/ben3.html
(Good thing nobody told him that his 200+ lbs and aggressive skiing were too much for the Laser.)
post #19 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Shefftz
Unlike the satirical reference to a cast-iron tongue, swapping in a Flexon tongue is free (or close to it, depending on the source), very easy, carries no weight penalty, yet significantly improves the downhill performance (tightening up the entire upper cuff), with only a small effect on the skinning stride. (Those other mentioned boots are all fine choices too, with their own pluses & minuses, but retrofitting a Flexon tongue is hardly an exotic or complicated modification.)
Here’s the tongue (not visible) in action coming off the summit of Shasta on the Hotlum-Wintun route:
http://jshefftz2.photosite.com/JeffS...Pics/ben3.html
(Good thing nobody told him that his 200+ lbs and aggressive skiing were too much for the Laser.)
Thats pretty nice turn steez there John - I think the photo deserves to be embedded here.

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