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post #31 of 54
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I'm back. Sorry!
But here's the last thing I'll ask.
I was planning on purchasing the new ski in a 162 cm, but here all advice is telling me 152. Why?
My reason for thinking 162 is because I used the M factor to figure it out and it put me closer to the 162 than the 152 on the factor scale, and I am currently using skis that are 170 cm and longer(keep in mind that I am used to skiing on the "guys" skis)
Will 152 seem less beefy to me? I thought it would make the ski stiffer and "beef it up" because shorter means stiffer.
Ordering tomorrow so I won't bug you any more. Promise!
post #32 of 54
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Originally Posted by trekchick
I'm back. Sorry!
But here's the last thing I'll ask.
I was planning on purchasing the new ski in a 162 cm, but here all advice is telling me 152. Why?
My reason for thinking 162 is because I used the M factor to figure it out and it put me closer to the 162 than the 152 on the factor scale, and I am currently using skis that are 170 cm and longer(keep in mind that I am used to skiing on the "guys" skis)
Will 152 seem less beefy to me? I thought it would make the ski stiffer and "beef it up" because shorter means stiffer.
Ordering tomorrow so I won't bug you any more. Promise!
Go short. If you are going the ATomic Metron B5 route the longest ski is a 172 and it is a LOT of ski for anyone. This is one ski you will probably be happier with a shorter length.

I am a 6'1", 190lbs expert and while the 172 seemed ok, I would probably ski the 162 for versatility in eastern/midwestern conditions. I tried both lengths at Boyne last Feb and the shorter length was definitely better.
post #33 of 54
bismeral has it right. I'm a 180lb guy and skied the 162s all last year.

bismeral, were those the '04/'05 models or the '05/'06? I'm wondering if the lighter bindings will effect the length choice (as suggested by Keelty's review).
post #34 of 54
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Originally Posted by bsimeral
Go short. If you are going the ATomic Metron B5 route the longest ski is a 172 and it is a LOT of ski for anyone. This is one ski you will probably be happier with a shorter length.

I am a 6'1", 190lbs expert and while the 172 seemed ok, I would probably ski the 162 for versatility in eastern/midwestern conditions. I tried both lengths at Boyne last Feb and the shorter length was definitely better.

Thanks for the help. I am sure glad I got on this forum. Helped me figure out some specifics on skis after doing a lot of homework.

The fact that you've skied it at Boyne and have some size advice makes me feel more comfortable about the decision I've made. Boyne and Crystal Mt have very similar snow conditions and terrain. I ski mostly Crystal Mt, but make it a point to get to Boyne when possible and plan on getting to Nubs this year.
Maybe I'll see you on the slopes here in Northern Michigan
post #35 of 54
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Originally Posted by ssh
bismeral has it right. I'm a 180lb guy and skied the 162s all last year.

bismeral, were those the '04/'05 models or the '05/'06? I'm wondering if the lighter bindings will effect the length choice (as suggested by Keelty's review).
I skied the 05/06 models at a 3day dealer event. They are about 1lb lighter per pair but still a hefty pair of skis. Maybe some will ski it longer but I would not go that way and I am a strong guy and skilled skier.

Just got my new Volkl Allstars 175cm and can't wait to ski them.

Liked the Atomic B5s but like the Nordica Hot Rod line and the Volkls better.

Actually, I like the Atomic SX11 (170cm) or the SX B5 (175cm) for hard snow better than the B5s. Bought the Volkls because they will ski both hard and soft well (if I ever get out west this season).
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by trekchick
Thanks for the help. I am sure glad I got on this forum. Helped me figure out some specifics on skis after doing a lot of homework.

The fact that you've skied it at Boyne and have some size advice makes me feel more comfortable about the decision I've made. Boyne and Crystal Mt have very similar snow conditions and terrain. I ski mostly Crystal Mt, but make it a point to get to Boyne when possible and plan on getting to Nubs this year.
Maybe I'll see you on the slopes here in Northern Michigan
Look for a tall, old guy on Volkl Allstars. Still ski fast but avoid bumps.

Will probably ski wherever the dealer event is held (boyne or bh) and maybe bh as well.
post #37 of 54
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Originally Posted by bsimeral
Look for a tall, old guy on Volkl Allstars. Still ski fast but avoid bumps.

Will probably ski wherever the dealer event is held (boyne or bh) and maybe bh as well.
You may have to look for a skinny girl(like you can tell under all the ski clothes) on 5 stars. I'll be on the tail of 4 guys, one of which will be wearing a KC Chiefs jacket, on his 724 pros. (This poses another question - Why is it that I can keep up with them but I just can't seem to pass them?) Two of the guys are on Atomic SX B5, so maybe I need that to pass them.

After all of this help from you awesome people, My dealer just made me a heck of a deal on the 5 stars.
I figured I'd buy them so I have a solid ski I know about for the season and will still consider the Metron for a second ski for fun later after I have a better opportunity to demo it.

After all, my husband has 6 (or is it 7) sets of skis, and I will only have two after buying the 5 stars, so buying both the metron and the 5 star will help me catch up with him.
post #38 of 54

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Hi trekchick,
Have heard lots of praise from M:11 demo-ers....also, if you get a chance to demo it, try Atomic's Sweet Daddy...a medium soft(for guys) fat @80mm
post #39 of 54
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Originally Posted by HaveSkisWillClimb
Hi trekchick,
Have heard lots of praise from M:11 demo-ers....also, if you get a chance to demo it, try Atomic's Sweet Daddy...a medium soft(for guys) fat @80mm
Thanks. That's one that hasn't been suggested to me. I will definitely demo it when I get a chance.

I'm starting to get the idea that it's just might be fun to have several skis to fit the personality of the day.
If only I had the finances to afford me the pleasure to have all I WANT!
post #40 of 54
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Originally Posted by trekchick
You may have to look for a skinny girl(like you can tell under all the ski clothes) on 5 stars. I'll be on the tail of 4 guys, one of which will be wearing a KC Chiefs jacket, on his 724 pros. (This poses another question - Why is it that I can keep up with them but I just can't seem to pass them?) Two of the guys are on Atomic SX B5, so maybe I need that to pass them.

After all of this help from you awesome people, My dealer just made me a heck of a deal on the 5 stars.
I figured I'd buy them so I have a solid ski I know about for the season and will still consider the Metron for a second ski for fun later after I have a better opportunity to demo it.

After all, my husband has 6 (or is it 7) sets of skis, and I will only have two after buying the 5 stars, so buying both the metron and the 5 star will help me catch up with him.
Got to be their greater mass. Also, do they wax their skis for the day's conditions? Get yourself a pair of 200cm super g skis waxed properly and watch them in your rear view mirror.

You will enjoy the 5 stars....
post #41 of 54
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Got to be their greater mass. Also, do they wax their skis for the day's conditions? Get yourself a pair of 200cm super g skis waxed properly and watch them in your rear view mirror.

You will enjoy the 5 stars....
Trust me! I will NEVER catch up to their Greater Mass.
Other than my husband, who waxes with an all purpose wax every time, I'm sure that the rest of the group uses appropriate wax for appropriate conditions.

I found a nice wax for spring skiing last March and loved what it did for me.
As far as a 200 cm Super G......My husband still has his old straight fischer Vacuum 210. Whadaya think?

One thing I can say "proudly" is that the big guys don't ever have to wait for me at the chairlift, thought I'm usually right on their tail. I'm the only woman in the group that even tries to ski with them.
post #42 of 54
Clean up your carve and you'll be amazed. Nolo is darn small, and can ski very fast when she let's 'em run... as can Little Bear (although she's not quite as petite as Nolo).
post #43 of 54

I wonder what ever happened to that trek chick?  She seemed pretty clueless.  I wonder if she'll ever amount to much.

post #44 of 54
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I wonder what ever happened to that trek chick?  She seemed pretty clueless.  I wonder if she'll ever amount to much.


She managed to get over 30,000 posts in 7 years, an average of about 12/day. I hope she got a few runs in as well. Probably now she waits at the bottom of the lift for all those he-men to catch up.

post #45 of 54
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She managed to get over 30,000 posts in 7 years, an average of about 12/day. I hope she got a few runs in as well. Probably now she waits at the bottom of the lift for all those he-men to catch up.

Thats pretty much it, plus she got lucky in Tahoe. 

post #46 of 54
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I wonder what ever happened to that trek chick?  She seemed pretty clueless.  I wonder if she'll ever amount to much.

Maybe you can educate me over a deli sandwich at the Wildflower. biggrin.gif

Or a drink at the Cham

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Thats pretty much it, plus she got lucky in Tahoe. 

Who got lucky? wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by ssh View Post

Clean up your carve and you'll be amazed.   Nolo is darn small, and can ski very fast when she let's 'em run... as can Little Bear (although she's not quite as petite as Nolo).
SSH was right, Nolo Rocks!
post #47 of 54

Trekchick,

 

Here's a golden opportunity.  Go back through the thread and grade it.  With the knowledge/ability you have now, would you have done anything differently with regards to the skis you picked at that time?  Do you think there is something you could have added or left out that would have influenced a better outcome?

 

You've since helped so many with ski decisions.  What would you have recommended for yourself back then (given your knowledge today but for your ability back then)?

 

Ken

post #48 of 54
Thread Starter 
Ken. All good questions.
If you see my comments in the 10,000 post count thread, this thread is living proof that dumb newbies can learn with time and patience
My current quiver is much softer, much more nimble, and my boots are three sizes smaller

If I were advising myself, I'd say
Boots first, then demo skis that suit your size and take a lesson.


But the kindness of Bob Peters and Sierra Jim just goes to show that someone can learn even if we don't set them straight on their first thread
post #49 of 54

Holy thread resurrection, Xela!  

 

TC, I notice you're no longer torn between Atomic and Volkl  wink.gif

post #50 of 54
Thread Starter 

Just realized that I recently passed my 10 year anniversary on EpicSki. 

Its hard to believe that I'm the girl  who started this thread. 

post #51 of 54

^^^^In all things, time and dedication can make a huge difference in ones knowledge and abilities, as you so clearly can show the jongs.

post #52 of 54
Sounds as if the biggest step was upgrading your DH's skills and quiver ... 😉 Once that was done, the rest starting falling into place.
post #53 of 54

So, back to the original question...............Volkl or Atomic? :D

post #54 of 54
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Originally Posted by John V. View Post
 

So, back to the original question...............Volkl or Atomic? :D

 

Yes.

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