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post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
So I've been looking around for a nice pair of skis and I've picked out a few candidates, but would like to hear opinions (and other ski suggestions if there are better ones for my type than the ones I've chosen) from owners or anyone else actually. So I like back country - 65% off-piste, 35% on-piste - and also going through bumps and moguls. I want a ski that isn't really heavy so I can still get good air. I also like high speed and good stability on on- and off-piste. The ones I've picked out are: Elan M666 and Atomic M: 11 (Puls Ti?). Thanks for your help in advance!
post #2 of 29
Others to consider: Metron M:EX, Elan M777, Volkl AC3 and AC4, Dynastar 8000 and 8800, Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel.

The Metron:b5 will be more stable at speed than the M:11, but is the same sidecut. Lots written here about them. Unfortunately, not a lot of the recent stuff is particularly useful. At least partially due to me.
post #3 of 29
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Originally Posted by JacksonVilla
So I've been looking around for a nice pair of skis and I've picked out a few candidates, but would like to hear opinions (and other ski suggestions if there are better ones for my type than the ones I've chosen) from owners or anyone else actually. So I like back country - 65% off-piste, 35% on-piste - and also going through bumps and moguls. I want a ski that isn't really heavy so I can still get good air. I also like high speed and good stability on on- and off-piste. The ones I've picked out are: Elan M666 and Atomic M: 11 (Puls Ti?). Thanks for your help in advance!
If you're thinking about the M666, check-out www.steapandcheap.com; they're selling them today for only $270. The 176's are all gone, now, but they are still offering the 168cm as of this posting
post #4 of 29
why dont you check out the ac-4.
post #5 of 29
Thread Starter 
And for those 65% off-piste excursions, this includes mostly bumps and moguls (various jumps), so the ski has to be able to get in good turns.
post #6 of 29
Thread Starter 
Another BTW, I am an early advanced skier (beginner, intermediate, advanced, expert) and am looking for a ski below $1000.
post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ssh
Others to consider: Metron M:EX, Elan M777, Volkl AC3 and AC4, Dynastar 8000 and 8800, Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel.

The Metron:b5 will be more stable at speed than the M:11, but is the same sidecut. Lots written here about them. Unfortunately, not a lot of the recent stuff is particularly useful. At least partially due to me.
I checked out the skis you mentioned and the volkl's are too advanced for me, the nordica's were just too expensive, dynastar were more of a groomer's ski, and the metrons and elans were also too advanced. Thanks for the help though. I still need more suggestions: skis that are good in bumps!!! not as much powder; stil have to be fast on and off groomed.
post #8 of 29
Wait a minute! Those Dynastars are not for groomed, especially the 8800. The Nordicas, Metrons, and Elans are equivalent to what you mentioned in the first post (M666 and Metron M:11). If you want to back down, check out the Metron M:10. I still think that the Volkl AC3 should be on your list. But, I'm pretty confused now about what you're trying to find.
post #9 of 29
JacksonVilla, are you in Europe?

ssh: might he be looking for something like a K2 in Recon or PE shape ?
post #10 of 29
Thread Starter 
Ok, let's try and clear this mess up. I live in Canada (mostly Eastern, not a lot of powder, but I still try and get out West once and a while), I love skiing bumps, jumps (diamonds/ double diamonds), trees, lots of backcountry, but there's very little powder where I ski. I still like carving on groomed runs and love going very fast on and off piste. So the skis I've checked out are (I know I've dissed quite a few worthy skis: Volkl Ac-3, 4, Nordica, and Dynastar, but that's because they're just too expensive for me; looking for skis lower than $1000) Elan M666, Atomic Metron: 10/11s, and now the Line Prophet 80s. Hope this clears things up for you guys, anymore questions just ask! Thank you all for your help!
post #11 of 29
Thread Starter 
Another add-on, I am an advanced skier (out of beginner, intermediate, advanced, expert).
post #12 of 29
Well I expect that you can find most of those skis for less than a grand online, where are you looking? BTW you certainly are fortunate to have a grand to buy your skis, when I was 14 I was skiing on my Dad's hand me downs.

The Volkl AC3 sounds like a good choice. I found three different places online (I didn't look further) that have them for $849+shipping with the Motion binding system. Online shouldn't be hard to do, if your folks are using their plastic.
post #13 of 29
All of those can be got for well under a grand with bindings, so that shouldn't be an issue. The AC3 is a nice all-around ski for your needs, I agree, as would be one of the Hot Rods (I'd go there first, myself).
post #14 of 29
JacksonVilla, you're speaking of Canadian prices, so the AC3 would be $1099, the Hot Rod $1500, yes?

What about moving down a notch from the halo freeriders: Fischer AMC73/Magfire10 etc?
post #15 of 29
Jacksonvilla, here's a friendly suggestion: since you are 14 years old, you likely are still growing, and in consideration of that, I'd recommend buying a used pair of skis that will suit you for the next couple of years until your size isn't changing so fast. For a couple hundred, you can get some really good used skis. I know they might not seem as glamorous, but new skis are only new until you ski on them, then they quickly become used skis.
post #16 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys for being so patient and for the ideas, I'll definately take this into consideration (it's just that no where around me sells used skis). I'd really like to know how the Line Prophet 80s would be for me, though, any opinions?
post #17 of 29
If you don't want to get used skis, at least look at last year's model skis. You should be able to find good deals on the dynastars (which are definitely not "too advanced" for you, they are very easy to ski IMO), or some of the others you were looking at (except the nordicas; they are new this year). K2 public enemy is a good choice for not too much cash, or maybe the fujative if you are skiing mostly in the park. I haven't skied them, but you might want to look into Salomon's new 1080 skis (foil or gun).

As for growing more, you should be more worried about boots than skis. Even if you grow a few inches, you will probably still be able to use the same length ski. Unless you think you are going to grow a lot still, don't worry about buying new skis instead of used.
post #18 of 29
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I'm not going to grow much more (like 6 inches max) so I'm gonna have these skis for at least the next 2 years. I have no problem with buying last years skis. Again, the skis I have in mind are the Volkl AC-3, Elan M666, and Line Prophet 80. Any opinions about these skis?
post #19 of 29
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Any suggestions for last years model skis?
post #20 of 29
Thread Starter 
Also, I thought this might help. For about the last two years I've been skiing on Rossi Axium T-Power 03. Here's what I thought of them: great in bumps but lacking in stability at high speeds, pretty much a good all around ski.
post #21 of 29
Thread Starter 
Well, after a bit more research - ok, a lot more - I've picked out entirely new skis: Rossignol Zeniths, Atomic Izors (not so sure on these ones), and Fischer RX series. I haven't heard much about the Line Prophet 80s either so I'm sticking with them too. Any comments on these skis?
post #22 of 29

Way I see it.

Except for maybe low-end Zeniths, anything you get from the above list will be a significant upgrade to what you have now.

We (or any other reviews) really can't tell you any more, you're going to have to demo both to figure out what works for your technique and to get the length right.
post #23 of 29
Thread Starter 
Ok guys, thanks for all your help, I've picked out a pair of Rossi Zenith Z9 Oversize TPi skis. Tell me if I shouldn't get these skis, but from what I've heard, they are almost perfect for me.
post #24 of 29
Thread Starter 
And as an added bonus for me, a store near me sells these $1200 skis for $650 Thanks again guys!
post #25 of 29
If you want to save your sponsor (haha) some money, look at these Rossi's they're very fine ski's. There's a thread on Rossi RPM on Epic.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Skis-Rossignol-rpm-100-174cm-w-rossi-axial-100-NEW_W0QQitemZ8718311521QQcategoryZ21245QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
post #26 of 29
Just to increase my number of posts, hehe; those Zeniths look good, seems like an ok price as well as long as it includes the binding.
The ski I recommended has a 68 waist, looks like you were looking for something wider. Bandit b2 should also suit you, lots on Ebay.

Have a good winter!
post #27 of 29
One final post:

http://www.erapro.com/item159686.ctlg

Or Nordica 14 SUV (narrower waist again):

http://www.skidealer.com/Hot%20Deals.htm

Okay, that's it. Guess I'm just sad that I won't get to buy any more gear this year after new boots, jacket, pants and having my new boards mounted....
post #28 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Klimski
If you want to save your sponsor (haha) some money, look at these Rossi's they're very fine ski's. There's a thread on Rossi RPM on Epic.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Skis-Rossignol-rpm-100-174cm-w-rossi-axial-100-NEW_W0QQitemZ8718311521QQcategoryZ21245QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
These sound a little more like groomers to me, looking for a ski that can handle the bumps as well. Thanks for the input though.
post #29 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Klimski
One final post:

http://www.erapro.com/item159686.ctlg

Or Nordica 14 SUV (narrower waist again):

http://www.skidealer.com/Hot%20Deals.htm

Okay, that's it. Guess I'm just sad that I won't get to buy any more gear this year after new boots, jacket, pants and having my new boards mounted....
Again, the metrons are better on powder (absolutely NO powder where I live), the nordicas are good but I'm gonna stick with my zeniths thank you very much!
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