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Dream Runs - Tips for First Visit to Breck Vail

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hi guys
Only have 4 days skiing (3Breck 1 Vail) in Jan. Not a lot of time for exploring. Long time skiier, experienced in black (little double black). Virtually no proper powder - thinking about a lesson if there's some pow about.

Looking for some of the dream runs at Breck and Vail. I quite like long medium steeps, with patches of bumps etc that you don't stop on for maybe 10-15mins hard skiing. Have done of bit of skiiing in Europe, enjoyed run from top of Zermatt to Cervinia, some of the runs down from the top at Tigne. Verbier with Tortin in the middle. Never really done any tree skiing but maybe time to give it a go!

My questions:
1. Any recommendations on an itinerrary for skiing a day at Vail - early start
2. Tips on longish (top to bottom style) dream runs for Breck (staying Beaver Run).

Cheers
post #2 of 19
Wow... you're practically a neighbour - I'm from Mona Vale. Can't help you on Vail/Breck but I was curious about the run from Zermatt to Cervinia... it wasn't hard skiing from what I remembered although I had a good load of powder on it when I was last there.

Good luck with your trip - I'm off to BC Canada 26th December for a couple of weeks.
post #3 of 19
Be sure to do a top to bottom Riva Ridge at Vail. One of the best double fall line trails in Colorado.
post #4 of 19
At Breck, there are a very limited number of long black runs. Most run about a thousand or maybe 1500 vertical feet and then runout toward the bottom. On peak 10 head into the burn a nice gladed section or the double blacks through the trees to the skiers right off the lift. Chair 6 has some nice lines through the trees, but usually bump up pretty good.

Hopefully the imperial express will be up and running (supposed start early Jan 06) and you can do laps in the imperial bowl, of course depending on the snowpack as the bowl is a huge scree slope. The biggest tip is to use the t-bar and hike toward peak 7.

For vail, if your only there one day and you're driving in park near the riva bahn chair and take the lift up to the northwoods express, head over to the blue sky basin as early as possible, as it will crowd quickly. Then head back to the front side as the day progresses. Just a tip, ski the outermost runs on the map as they will be the least tracked out, and head into the trees.

-Matt

Take a look in the gallery for my breck trip photos from last year.
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys (esp Grizzly), I will be printing out for trip. Any other thoughts appreciated.

Grizzly, where is gallery you referred to?

Blaise, wow indeed. Yeh memory a bit vague on that Cervinia run - remember it as loooong (maybe 7km+) and get a good sweat up non-stop - maybe "High Noon" level at Thredbo? But nowadays I'm more interested in hard as in getting heart pumping hard. Enjoy BC, and probably see ya at Woolies.
post #6 of 19
Sorry about the gallery, it was on another forum. I will try to upload some pictures when I get a chance.

In the while, take a look at this site: http://www.firsttracksonline.com/breck2001.htm
it is a very complete guide of breck. Also check out http://www.firsttracksonline.com/vail.html and http://www.firsttracksonline.com/vail2.htm.

Even though a little dated, they are pretty good.

-Matt
post #7 of 19
Vail is HUGE. and the best places to ski can depend on the snow conditions and the crowds. I have been lucky to have friend/tour guides, but the first time I went with my husband, they had a great deal on lessons which made the lift ticket almost free. we took a high level lesson and told them what we really wanted was a tour guide. It was great; we had two other people who wanted the same thing and we skied all day, all over the place and never waited in a lift line.
post #8 of 19
For Vail the Inner & Outer Mongolia Bowls. Lovers Leap to the Big Rock Park .On the front side Simba gets little traffic. Blue Ox for bumps Riva Glades (trees). One day at Vail is going to be hard but should have a fun time!
post #9 of 19
For Breck, Start out at Peak 8 Rocky Mt. Super chair take a few runs, then to the T-bar Forget Me not, into Ore Bucket to Monte Cristo to Independece Chair. Some nice stuff in the chair 6 area & E-chair. Peak 10 is nice but if you get out to far you will end up in the flats (below Mustang,Elan & Dark Rider)
post #10 of 19

on lessons

Sounds like a fun trip. I can only suggest that if your going to take a lesson, do it at the start of your stay, the first day if possible. I usually ski peak 10 first, but this means a trip over Red Rover to get to the Beaver Run Superchair. Red Rover is flat, or nearly flat, I know I always find it inconvenient. Your best bet may be going straight to peak 9 and skiing your way over to peak 7.
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Cheers all for the tips! Should get us started nicely on both mountains.

GrizzlyMatt - google a very worrying thing - found your trip report so no need to post pics - while it doesn't help in getting through the days work, love looking at personal reports like that - will try to remember to post something similar.

Can I ask two more quick questions:
1. parking at Vail - on my plan looks liking to get to Riva Bahn express closest parking at the big parking area below Vail village - any tips on parking and what time to get there to be a chance - probably go on the Friday.
2. recommendations for good value eating / drinks at Breck: (family with 11 and 15 yo) reasonable prox. to Beaver Run.

Just had a look at webcams at Breck - looking much better - not too long now...!!
post #12 of 19
Vail: Riva Ridge, Ramshorn (green but bery nice), Northwoods to Lift 11, the 2 Double Blacks off Highline lift, Avanti to International or Giant Steps (my fave), Born Free to Bear Trap, Simba, and Poppyfields.
Breck: The 4 runs off Falcon Chair (Peak 10), Four O'Clock and Spruce at Peak 8.

If you can, reverse your days; 3 days Vail and 1 day Breck, much better skiing IMHO.

Breck town has a great BBQ restaurant on a corner od Main Street, name?
post #13 of 19
Parking at any resort is liable to be difficult. I always try to arrive at any resort I ski at by 7:30 am. I usually make it around 8:00 am. I never have trouble finding parking. I bring a thermos of coffee and whatever I cooked or bought for my breakfast which I proceed to eat as I watch the lot fill up. After 8:30 or 8:45 there is a steady stream of cars. As for eats at Breck try Breckenridge.com, I have been to Downstairs at Erics and it was alright, I think it was by Beaver run but I forget.
post #14 of 19
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Can I ask two more quick questions:
1. parking at Vail - on my plan looks liking to get to Riva Bahn express closest parking at the big parking area below Vail village - any tips on parking and what time to get there to be a chance - probably go on the Friday.
[quote]

Get there early. Park in the Vail Village lot near the Ski Museum, walk down the steps and the shuttle stop is right there by the Covered Bridge. A short shuttle ride to Golden Peak will get you very close to the lift.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by fooltotry
2. recommendations for good value eating / drinks at Breck: (family with 11 and 15 yo) reasonable prox. to Beaver Run.

Just had a look at webcams at Breck - looking much better - not too long now...!!
Check out bubba gump shrimp, good food, pretty cheap, and a great family restaurant. There is also a good sushi/japanese restaurant in breck, but i forgot the name.

-Matt
post #16 of 19
Fooltotry....do a search in the Fitness and Health Forum and look for the "Altitude sickness & Viagra" thread about altitude sickness. There is a wealth of information there.

Just be carefull about the altitude and you'll be fine....I live about 5.0 ' above sea level and go a few times a year to Summit County and did get surprised once.

Be sure to hit Spencers Rest. right at Beaver Run (especially if you like unlimited Prime Rib)

I agree with Coach on the Parking thing....Golden Peak is an excellent place to start, and there are a whole bank of ($4) lockers on the lowest floor of the lodge there......You can drive your party to the Golden Peak Lodge drop off area...drop all your stuff and only one person has to park the car and shuttle over from the main parking garage....

I also have a "Day Vail Guide" I wrote for another member here. Is is a daylong "tour" taking you to most areas of the mtn so you can see the place and get your bearings w/o getting lost.

I'll gladly send a copy of the route to any EpicSki member .....all you have to do is PM me and request it.....

Enjoy
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by fooltotry
2. recommendations for good value eating / drinks at Breck: (family with 11 and 15 yo) reasonable prox. to Beaver Run.
My favorites are:

Cheap lunch: Quandary Grill (On East shore of Maggie Pond. South Main St.)
Steak: Quandary Grill
BBQ: Salt Creek (Lincoln/Main area)
Italian: Giampietro's (Lincoln/Main)
Fried Seafood: Bubba Gumps (Main/Adams)
Chinese Lunch Buffet: Red Orchid (Main St. North of Wellington).
Mexican: Fiesta Jalisco (Main/Jefferson area)
Expensive: Hearthstone (Ridge/Washington)

All are relatively inexpensive except Hearthstone.

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Just had a look at webcams at Breck - looking much better - not too long now...!!
I got 13" at my house yesterday which means 15-17" at Breck's measuring station and probably 20"+ under the new lift. The last big storm dumped 30" officially at Breck (more up high). We've been getting dumped on.

Steve
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
You guys are fantastic on the advice (only thing I can't work out is why you didn't refer me to the Viagra side of that thread too, Uncle Louie - PM on the way for that day guide)!

FTT
post #19 of 19
Because your profile says you haven't turned 50 yet



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Originally Posted by fooltotry
You guys are fantastic on the advice (only thing I can't work out is why you didn't refer me to the Viagra side of that thread too, Uncle Louie - PM on the way for that day guide)!

FTT
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