Originally Posted by Highway Star
No, I am just being misquoted. Please re-read my posts on the previous page. I concluded:
"my experience with other atomics and other short sidecut skis leaves me with the conclusion that the short radius metrons are most likely far more limiting than you are describing, and that the major reason you find them a good choice, is that you don't ski particularly fast and agressively. If you don't spend much time above 25 mph, and like short turns, I'm sure they are fantastic."
"If you do indeed ski at over 25mph regularly, I suggest buying a ski with around a 20m sidecut, so you aren't constantly skiddering down the hill."
Point being, is that you basicly run out of sidecut on a 12m radius ski at around 25 mph. By 30 mph you are really pushing it...you may still be able to do a skiddered, semicarved turn while oversking the sidecut or underedge the ski on soft snow to make a clean arc. At 35mph there is no way in hell you'll be able to make an agressively edged carved turn, or any carved turn really.
Don't get me wrong, 20-25 mph is a pretty good clip, that's faster than alot of people ski at. However, I grew up skiing fast and racing GS, and typically freeski faster than that, around 35-40 mph - thus I am most comfortable on skis in the 20m to 30m radius range.
Sounds reasonable to me. If I understand correctly, your saying it's not a ski you would reccommend for 30+ mph turns. However, let's consider two things: skiing methods and snow conditions.
Overskiing the sidecut is probably a perfectly acceptable thing for a lot of people, the people who don't emulate DH racers, have no race training, and are perfectly happy tipping the ski and using fore-aft balance to have the snow turn the skis. I'm sure there are many good "old-style" skiers who don't really carve all that well on old straight skis, but still like skiing at 35mph. And for the others, let's not forget how smooth a scarved turn feels on a well damped ski on groomed snow (as opposed to what passes for snow on some of our eastern hills, the grooved pavement made of ice from melted and then refrozen corduroy).
On soft snow, snow where the skis sinks way into the snow and the interesection of the ski with the snow is in fact a relatively large (edit: oops not 3 unless you consider the compaction of the snow behind the area)2-D plane area, the bottom of the ski is doing the work and edge effects are secondary. The middle of the edge need not even be contacting the snow as the ski rides through the groove cut by the tip, but does not "fill" the groove. On hard snow only the intersection of the ski and the snow surface is closer to the theoretical (oops) 1-D "edge"
I think you have a very good hypothesis in "not good for carving 30+mph turns". I have no doubt that your conclusion is true for eastern snow conditions, but your conclusion may be premature FOR SOFTER SNOW.