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post #241 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Fair enough.....

I have to comment on everybody's ski choice then.....you were all on narrow carving skis from what I could tell, a pretty bad choice for the conditions of the day......which happened to be normal east coast conditions for this time of year....some new snow, moguls, some melt, some ice, etc. Not midfat in the bunch..........your group stood out because of that, and was quite easy to identify.
I had my 181 Titan 9's (122/86/109) with me, which I skied Friday (a truely an awesome and my new favorite ski) and I had a blast flying around with it. But in the limited terrain that we were in, the amount of skiers that were on the hill and the drills that we were working on, my M11 B5's (76 waist but a 15m TR) was a fine choice. I just didn't feel that I had the room to ski the Titans responsibly and work on the drills that we were doing.
post #242 of 311
I dunno...pretty hard to judge how good anyone truly is based on the limited and crowded lollipop runs that are all that's open right now at Stowe....
I mean it's not like any trees or the front five (I count lookout) are open so where's the true test...it sure ain't Lord etc..
post #243 of 311
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Here's a tip. Ride the lift with somebody at Stowe who's a local and looks like they rip pretty well. Be nice, have a good polite conversation, etc. Tell them you're from Boston, NYC, or anywhere south of VT......note the reaction when you tell them that. Then ask to take a run with them.....

They will ski as fast as they possibly can (or at least 95%), and will not stop until at least half way down. Pretty goddamn fast, for a long run. Not to ditch you, but to test you and see if you can hang......and they'll be damned if they'll be shown up by someone who's from down south.

Tail them, then about a 1/4 of the way down, pour on the speed, pass them, and keep charging. Put some distance between you and them. Then, stop and wait up in a spot where they can't miss you. If they stop, great. If not, start skiing again, catch up to them, and tail them. When they finally stop, stop right after them. So they know that:

1. You just passed them.
2. You stopped, and caught up to them again without a problem.

In all likelyhood, they will ask you the following, while looking very perplexed......

1. "Where are you from again?"
2. "How many days have you been out this year?"

Hillarious.
post #244 of 311
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Originally Posted by breckview View Post
Considering everything said above and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVsV2EFvDkM , this whole thing cannot be real. There's nothing wrong with skiing at that level. It's not a contest. But to stalk others during instruction and then belittle them. It has to be a joke.
Not very aggressive skiing (backseater) in that Video and far from Expert. I see some good skiers but very few Experts. This guy is not even a good technical skier.
post #245 of 311
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Originally Posted by breckview View Post
Considering everything said above and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVsV2EFvDkM , this whole thing cannot be real. There's nothing wrong with skiing at that level. It's not a contest. But to stalk others during instruction and then belittle them. It has to be a joke.
Um yeah....that's level 10 skiing there, son......

What doesn't translate on you-tube is the speed and the difficulty of snow conditions.....both are quite high, and I'm skiing that quite agressively, thank you very much. I'm not classicly back seat, btw - I'm using a heavy rear weighting to make a bent-ski/tail turn in some very heavy, mucky snow with thin cover and don't want to get hung up.

As I've said before, I'd be a happy to take anybody down devil's fiddle in those conditions, and we can see how you do.
post #246 of 311
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Originally Posted by slider View Post
Not very aggressive skiing (backseater) in that Video and far from Expert. I see some good skiers but very few Experts. This guy is not even a good technical skier.
Please come ski with me some time.........

Oh boy.....
post #247 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Here's a tip. Ride the lift with somebody at Stowe who's a local and looks like they rip pretty well. Be nice, have a good polite conversation, etc. Tell them you're from Boston, NYC, or anywhere south of VT......note the reaction when you tell them that. Then ask to take a run with them.....

They will ski as fast as they possibly can (or at least 95%), and will not stop until at least half way down. Pretty goddamn fast, for a long run. Not to ditch you, but to test you and see if you can hang......and they'll be damned if they'll be shown up by someone who's from down south.

Tail them, then about a 1/4 of the way down, pour on the speed, pass them, and keep charging. Put some distance between you and them. Then, stop and wait up in a spot where they can't miss you. If they stop, great. If not, start skiing again, catch up to them, and tail them. When they finally stop, stop right after them. So they know that:

1. You just passed them.
2. You stopped, and caught up to them again without a problem.

In all likelyhood, they will ask you the following, while looking very perplexed......

1. "Where are you from again?"
2. "How many days have you been out this year?"

Hillarious.
Only thing I would say would be "What a rude A$$hole.": :

Good thing you didn't meet the Bears. Who wants that kind of treatment?
post #248 of 311
Here's another good fairy tale:

When I ski, people stand with mouths agape at my skill and ethereal presence. I am FAMOUS, after all (thanks, MagnusFire!). When the Queen skis, all people must pay homage.

My wedge christies are legend and cannot be imitated. I do not need to walk up to you and introduce myself, for that is beneath me. 90% of you see me skiing in the backseat, yet I know myself and am not doing what you see......it is a group illusion.

Epic coaches are not worthy to ski the same trail as me because I will outshine them. They are holding back because I cannot. All of my skills are immediately shown to you, the lesser skiers.

Bush is an intelligent man. There is a Santa Claus.
post #249 of 311
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
Only thing I would say would be "What a rude A$$hole.": :

Good thing you didn't meet the Bears. Who wants that kind of treatment?
LOL, that's what the stowe locals do.....not me!!!

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They will ski as fast as they possibly can (or at least 95%), and will not stop until at least half way down. Pretty goddamn fast, for a long run. Not to ditch you, but to test you and see if you can hang......and they'll be damned if they'll be shown up by someone who's from down south.
My suggestion is beat them at their own game when they try to pull that crap.....it's fun.

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Tail them, then about a 1/4 of the way down, pour on the speed, pass them, and keep charging. Put some distance between you and them. Then, stop and wait up in a spot where they can't miss you. If they stop, great. If not, start skiing again, catch up to them, and tail them. When they finally stop, stop right after them. So they know that:

1. You just passed them.
2. You stopped, and caught up to them again without a problem.

In all likelyhood, they will ask you the following, while looking very perplexed......

1. "Where are you from again?"
2. "How many days have you been out this year?"

Hillarious.
post #250 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Um yeah....that's level 10 skiing there, son......
Maybe so. I'm not an instructor. Just a skier. Don't really care about "levels".

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As I've said before, I'd be a happy to take anybody down devil's fiddle in those conditions, and we can see how you do.
From the video it looked like about 25 degrees. But this website states only 20 degrees. http://1way2rock.addr.com/ski/killin...vilsfiddle.htm . That's about the same pitch as in my backyard that we ski with dogs. I think I'd do OK.
post #251 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Please come ski with me some time.........

Oh boy.....
Thanks for the offer. Since we live almost 3000 miles apart chances are slim. However, I will be in Tahoe during March if there is adaquate snowpack. Does that work for you.
post #252 of 311
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Originally Posted by breckview View Post
Maybe so. I'm not an instructor. Just a skier. Don't really care about "levels".



From the video it looked like about 25 degrees. But this website states only 20 degrees. http://1way2rock.addr.com/ski/killin...vilsfiddle.htm .
DUUUUUUDE. You ski at Breck. It's flat. You guys don't know the first thing about pitch. Sorry. I've had people tell me they'd rather ski at Killington than at Breck. Whew.

Anyway. That's the average pitch for the entire Bear mountain, point to point. The fiddle is steep up top and then flattens out. It's got ledges and cliffs on the steep part. In the video, I come off the steep part onto the flat part. It's probably about 35 degrees flattening out to 15. Thin cover, lots of rock to contend with.
post #253 of 311
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Originally Posted by slider View Post
Not very aggressive skiing (backseater) in that Video and far from Expert. I see some good skiers but very few Experts. This guy is not even a good technical skier.
Can we please not start the Highway Star movement analysis thread again?
post #254 of 311

the biggest mouth since mohammed ali

with the talent of junior varsity
post #255 of 311
Ahhh.. Highway. I needed a good laugh this morning. thanks for that. No I'm not laughing with you. If that is you on that Devil's fiddle video...then how the heck can you be laying down such BS from your mouth now? Do we all have the wrong idea about your skiing? Maybe. The videos look like nothing but hack skiing to me.

Someday, as someone else suggested, you are going to realize that there is value to real technique. The unfortunate thing is that you will not be in the prime of your years when you finally learn it. If you learned it now, just imagine what you could do with all the energy, aggresiveness and confident attitude? As you are, you are never going to realize your potential and by the time you finally get it, you will simply not have the physical capabilities to turn it on as well as you could have if developed those skills now.

Its hard on the ego, but if you want to be great, that's what you have to do man.


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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Well, I shadowed the group for about a run and a half at around 3pm on saturday. Buzzed them pretty hard on the side of the trail at least once (skiing the edge line).
FYI - the number one statistical cause of death on inbounds ski slopes is from 30 something year old males ripping the edge of the trail. Something to consider.

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I'll have to hold a clinic for you guys sometime.....we'll call it the "Highway Way".
Now THAT was funny.



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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
I have to comment on everybody's ski choice then.....you were all on narrow carving skis from what I could tell, a pretty bad choice for the conditions of the day......which happened to be normal east coast conditions for this time of year....some new snow, moguls, some melt, some ice, etc. Not midfat in the bunch..........your group stood out because of that, and was quite easy to identify.

On the otherhand, I saw plenty of other people and obvious stowe locals out on midfat to fat skis and twintips, anywhere from 80mm to 100mm+ at the waist. As were all the people I skied with at Killington the next day.

I understand it's a clinic, but wouldn't it be more practical to ski conditions of the day on skis that were meant for those conditions, and teach technique for those conditions? They were typical conditions, not carving conditions.

I'm amazed that epicski is so far removed from the mainstream as far as what it's members are skiing on.
Highway, most people I know on the east coast have no use for a midfat. And by the way, since when did 80mm become considered a midfat? Particularly on the east coast. The amount of time you're going to have to use skiis like that out there are so slim, its simply a waste of money.
post #256 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
DUUUUUUDE. You ski at Breck. It's flat. You guys don't know the first thing about pitch. Sorry. I've had people tell me they'd rather ski at Killington than at Breck. Whew.
We have 50 degree lift served pitches and numerous 40 degree pitches. We have over 800 acres of 35+ degree pitches. And after watching your video, apparently we have LOTS of "level 10" skiers.

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It's probably about 35 degrees
Buy a clinometer and you'll learn how to estimate pitches.
post #257 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
As far as buzzing goes, I was ripping down the side of the trail just like any expert would. Your group was stopped in the way and I avoided them without missing beat. I didn't hear any yells of "hey! you're out control", etc. Defintely about half the group looking up hill and watching silently though...........
post #258 of 311
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Originally Posted by breckview View Post
We have 50 degree lift served pitches and numerous 40 degree pitches. We have over 800 acres of 35+ degree pitches. And after watching your video, apparently we have LOTS of "level 10" skiers.


Buy a clinometer and you'll learn how to estimate pitches.
Lol......nah, I'm pretty sure it's flat....that's why they call it "Trekkinridge".
post #259 of 311
It is a little steeper for about 100 vertical feet at the top. Probably around 25 degrees. But about halfway down your run it's obviously about 15 degrees. Scary stuff !!!
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post #260 of 311
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Originally Posted by borntoski683 View Post
Ahhh.. Highway. I needed a good laugh this morning. thanks for that. No I'm not laughing with you. If that is you on that Devil's fiddle video...then how the heck can you be laying down such BS from your mouth now? Do we all have the wrong idea about your skiing? Maybe. The videos look like nothing but hack skiing to me.

Someday, as someone else suggested, you are going to realize that there is value to real technique. The unfortunate thing is that you will not be in the prime of your years when you finally learn it. If you learned it now, just imagine what you could do with all the energy, aggresiveness and confident attitude? As you are, you are never going to realize your potential and by the time you finally get it, you will simply not have the physical capabilities to turn it on as well as you could have if developed those skills now.

Its hard on the ego, but if you want to be great, that's what you have to do man.




FYI - the number one statistical cause of death on inbounds ski slopes is from 30 something year old males ripping the edge of the trail. Something to consider.



Now THAT was funny.





Highway, most people I know on the east coast have no use for a midfat. And by the way, since when did 80mm become considered a midfat? Particularly on the east coast. The amount of time you're going to have to use skiis like that out there are so slim, its simply a waste of money.
Ok then....your friends on the east coast who have no use for a 80mm+ ski are gapers...make sense now? That has to be it. Because at least 90% of the ripping skiers in the east are on a 80mm+ ski for all around.

I love that Devils fiddle clip.......people watch it once and think - "OMG, look at that backseat"........and assume I'm just a hack....ROFL.
post #261 of 311
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It is a little steeper for about 100 vertical feet at the top. Probably around 25 degrees. But about halfway down your run it's obviously about 15 degrees. Scary stuff !!!
Hey, Slick. Maybe you missed where I said it was "35 degrees, flattening out to 15". As in, right there.....duh.

Scary enough when it's 2 feet of snow that's untracked, been sitting there for 3 days in warm temps, has no base underneath, tons of rock, and you're coming into it at 30mph, having to make manditory turns to dodge visable rocks.

Piece of cake, really.
post #262 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Lol......nah, I'm pretty sure it's flat....that's why they call it "Trekkinridge".
Can you notice any difference between your scary, scary pitch and this lift served pitch at Breck?

http://homepage.mac.com/saemisch/Pow...1001-full.html
post #263 of 311
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Can you notice any difference between your scary, scary pitch and this lift served pitch at Breck?

http://homepage.mac.com/saemisch/Pow...1001-full.html
Not really. We have 20 foot long sections of 50-55 degrees too.....what's your point?
post #264 of 311

Yet another trail based on the Devil, here is the Devils Crotch at Breck, not exactly a 'trekking' trail. Even in a bad snow year it has some pitch and also some nice terrain to the skiers left.
post #265 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Not really. We have 20 foot long sections of 50-55 degrees too.....what's your point?
Does this look like a "20 foot long section"?

http://homepage.mac.com/saemisch/Pow...1008-full.html
post #266 of 311
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Yet another trail based on the Devil, here is the Devils Crotch at Breck, not exactly a 'trekking' trail. Even in a bad snow year it has some pitch and also some nice terrain to the skiers left.
Nice trail Phil.....

But my point was that Breck is a pretty dull mountain, even by east coast standards.

Who's the hot chick by the way? Grrrr......
post #267 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Here's a tip. Ride the lift with somebody at Stowe who's a local and looks like they rip pretty well. Be nice, have a good polite conversation, etc. Tell them you're from Boston, NYC, or anywhere south of VT......note the reaction when you tell them that. Then ask to take a run with them.....

They will ski as fast as they possibly can (or at least 95%), and will not stop until at least half way down. Pretty goddamn fast, for a long run. Not to ditch you, but to test you and see if you can hang......and they'll be damned if they'll be shown up by someone who's from down south.

Tail them, then about a 1/4 of the way down, pour on the speed, pass them, and keep charging. Put some distance between you and them. Then, stop and wait up in a spot where they can't miss you. If they stop, great. If not, start skiing again, catch up to them, and tail them. When they finally stop, stop right after them. So they know that:

1. You just passed them.
2. You stopped, and caught up to them again without a problem.

In all likelyhood, they will ask you the following, while looking very perplexed......

1. "Where are you from again?"
2. "How many days have you been out this year?"

Hillarious.

You will become a better skier if you stop worrying about who you are impressing. Do it to satisfy you, not your ego. And try to ski safely, I've pulled too many busted up guys like you off in the sled.
post #268 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Nice trail Phil.....

But my point was that Breck is a pretty dull mountain, even by east coast standards.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! My sides hurt from laughing.
post #269 of 311
No need for anyone to post anymore....it's settled Highway star is the greatest ever!!

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Please, stop fueling Cuckoo Boy
post #270 of 311
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Originally Posted by Highway Star View Post
Nice trail Phil.....

But my point was that Breck is a pretty dull mountain, even by east coast standards.

Who's the hot chick by the way? Grrrr......
People can say Kmart is a pretty poor designed mountain and as you say..whats your point . When we do Summit County, I still prefer A-Basin. BTW, that is my son (about 14 at the time). :
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