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post #31 of 59
Curling Rocks!

Skating rates.


No one watches ski racing. (Except for you diehards.)

A few Olympics back we were skiing and staying in northern VT and were able to watch them on Canadian television. We very much enjoyed the coverage sans NBC's "enhanced" coverage.
post #32 of 59
Back to the original topic (how boring): there's a little article on the Ski Racing website about the Today show appearance.
post #33 of 59
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston
Back to the original topic (how boring): there's a little article on the Ski Racing website about the Today show appearance.
Link?
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post #35 of 59
I apologize if it has been posted somewhere, but do people have links to the tv schedules for races this year? I couldn't find a single instance of anything related to skiing on the OLN site today. If anyone could give me the info I'd really appreciate it.

Last winter I put my tv tuner card to use and recorded all but a few winter revolutions and OLN FIS programs to my computer. It was really worth the effort as I have probably watched each of them about 5 times since then.

I was so fed up with the bode hype last winter that I didn't give him the respect he deserved, but after watching then rewatching some of the turns he made in GS and SG races my jaw was on the floor. Even with one slalom finish last year he still managed to take the title. If he can stay on his feet in the technical events this year it should be amazing to watch.

The overall title should be epic this year but as we know, the olympics are probably giong to detract from WC skiing coverage instead of enhancing it. The competition from the herminator spiked at the end of last year and his win earlier this month looks to me like an indication that he's a strong candidate again. Raich showed that his consistent speed and conservative approach were a formidable strategy last year. And Bode will certainly be out there doing one of two things at each race - 1) adding 100 points to his total, or 2) DNF.
post #36 of 59
Since we've opted for the complete cable package we can actually switch back and forth between NBC and whoever has the Canadian broadcast rights (usually split between a cable sports station and one of the Canadian networks). Aside from the over-emphasis on hockey and curling, Canadian coverage is infinitely better. We keep our mandatory maudlin patriotic backstories to about a third the length of NBC. The only problem is when a Canadian actually does win a gold medal, and then we're forced to watch interminable replays of the action, the awards, and the post-event interviews while live events suffer.

Speaking of curling "athletes" does anyone remember Hec Gervais? Wasn't he around 350 pounds and a chain smoker (while competing)?
post #37 of 59
I was on the NBC web site looking around for Olympic schedule info. when I came across a survey they're doing. Essentially, it's a poll asking which is your favorite Olympic event. I got to thinking(very dangerous), since, no TV schedule is posted yet for air times of specific events, they're probably using polls like the one on their site to determine which events should get the most coverage. Go to www.wnbc.com/olympics2006/index.html to vote for your favorite. Scroll down the page about half way and the poll is located on the right side. Alpine Racing is trialing and could use some votes. Maybe, just maybe, if the votes pic up, they might air it more often.
post #38 of 59
NBC maybe isn't that bad. Alaska Airline's in-flight magazine this month showcases the upcoming Olympics and American hopefuls. First they featured the Luge, Cross-country, Biathelon and finially Alpine skiing. They did mention Daron Rahlves and Tom Rothrock as contenders. No mention of Bode Miller.:
post #39 of 59
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Originally Posted by sibhusky
Thanks.

I found this quote amusing and self-serving:

" Lauer did not press Miller on his recent doping ramblings made to Ski Racing and other media outlets."

Why would Lauer *know*?
post #40 of 59
C'mon people...luge is kicking out butts.

http://cf.wnbc.com/ny/sh/con_surveyc...results_nt.cfm
post #41 of 59
That was an excellent question for the host to ask; his audiance needs to know that the season has allready started! It's too bad he didn't have any good followup questions.
post #42 of 59
WTF Figure Skating at 40%, if the TV schedule is based on this I'll be watching CBC's coverage.
How exciting can Figure Skating be, a bunch of people doing the same moves that are judged by corrupt people.

At least skiing is beating curling and cross country, though curling does have some interesting strategies involved.
post #43 of 59
Come on gang we've got to get the numbers up.
post #44 of 59
I voted, and I can tell you it wasn't for figure skating.
post #45 of 59
Yup- looks like Matt learned a little known fact. Even though it is the fake olympics, the contenders must start their training months before the actual event

Figure skating...they are definitely skilled and athletic, but I have qualms about something whose scores are purely subjective being an Olympic event.

Ski racing- you see one guy hauling ass down the hill (except for D.S.). Exciting for a while, but people like to see intense head-to-head competition in their sports. If the entire field started all at once or even in groups of five I'm sure it would be highly rated!
post #46 of 59
Nowadays it would be technological child's-play for someone with the resources of NBC to superimpose the current racer over synchronized video of the leader, or even several previous skiers. Particularly since they won't be showing the events live anyway.
post #47 of 59
Yeah, but that precludes the possibility of tactics and a NASCAR style pile up. Those are the only reasons people watch something as boring as NASCAR, and look how popular it is.

(Note: this is sarcasm. I'm not actually advocating something that dangerous.
post #48 of 59
Did anyone else notice how skiing was broken down into alpine, freestyle, cross-country, biathalon, and ski jumping, while some other sports were grouped together (bobsleigh/luge/skeleton for example). Interesting how that can skew the results a bit, especially if NBC uses this as "scientific" data.

Would have been better if they had split the various sports and let you vote for up to three.

By the way, through some very obvious ballot box stuffing, we're slowly catching up with ice skating. Maybe, just maybe, we can limit the amount of time Scott Hamilton is on air this year.
post #49 of 59
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Originally Posted by hercules
I was on the NBC web site looking around for Olympic schedule info. when I came across a survey they're doing. Essentially, it's a poll asking which is your favorite Olympic event. I got to thinking(very dangerous), since, no TV schedule is posted yet for air times of specific events, they're probably using polls like the one on their site to determine which events should get the most coverage. Go to www.wnbc.com/olympics2006/index.html to vote for your favorite. Scroll down the page about half way and the poll is located on the right side. Alpine Racing is trialing and could use some votes. Maybe, just maybe, if the votes pic up, they might air it more often.
Thanks for this link Alpine skiing is now at 38%
KEEP IT UP
Forward this to everyone you know.
post #50 of 59
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Originally Posted by SLATZ
Thanks for this link Alpine skiing is now at 38%
KEEP IT UP
Forward this to everyone you know.
Good work folks. Unfortunately I had to vote again before it would allow me to look at the updated totals--42% and climbing!
post #51 of 59
Four people voted while I was looking at it the second time.
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oops
post #53 of 59
unfortunitally, skiing will never be a big broadcast item for our networks. It is very costly to set up with cameras, and the public only wants to see the bad crashes (like NASCAR). To most, every skiier looks the same through the course and it is a different sport than most recreational skiers participate in. The announcer explains thing in over simplified terms and uses the same descriptions over and over again. It makes me wonder if the announcer gave up skiing when leather boots came out with buckles. The broadcast times of alpine events are usually when people are either working, or skiing and skating is always prime time. I'm not expecting anything different this time.

RW
post #54 of 59
That's what bothers me. You pay for the broadcast rights, set up cameras over the course, pay the personnel to film every racer, and then show as few as 4 racers. Meanwhile, curling gets 20 matches aired on MSNBC. They say it's because of ski racing being a prime-time sport and needs to be on the flagship network during peak hours, but then they just show what amounts to a highlight reel.

I don't care to see the Mexican (or whoever) team of also-rans, but not showing both runs of the top 15 is just plain wrong.
post #55 of 59
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Originally Posted by Ron White
unfortunitally, skiing will never be a big broadcast item for our networks. It is very costly to set up with cameras,
NBC says they are comitting 150 cameras to ski racing.

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Originally Posted by Alaska Mike
I don't care to see the Mexican (or whoever) team of also-rans,
Actually ... I'd kind of like to see Hubertus von Hohenlohe.
post #56 of 59
OK, Hubertus would be kinda fun to watch, but that's about it. I understand they have to keep the segments short to make time for watching Michelle Qwan tie up her skates.
post #57 of 59
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NBC says they are comitting 150 cameras to ski racing.
And then only show a few runs??

RW
post #58 of 59
We did a good job bombarding that poll with alpine skiing requests but I wouldn't get your hopes up that it will alter their event coverage much.

NBC statisticians know that a voluntary internet survey like this provides a biased sample that isn't representative of the population that will be viewing olympics. The combination of the posts on Ski Racing and this site (and probably some other places) tipped the scales wildly in favor of skiing.

I really hope they prove me wrong and do a fabulous job covering all of the skiing but I'm not holding my breath.

Prediction (with sarcasm): Bode biography, Bode highlights, Bode interviews, something about that austrain guy who flipped upside down years ago then got in a motorcycle accident, and maybe some actual Bode racing footage if they can squeeze it in.
post #59 of 59
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Originally Posted by telerod15
Survivor had all that? Damn, I've got to check that out! Hey OLN is showing it! Super!

I saw it called Only Lance Network by some one at bikeforums.com. I thought that was pretty funny.
It's true about the Only Lance Network - OLN covered the Giro d'Italia online(Salvadelli won - another Disco team member), the Tour de France (how many times did they do a special on Lance and his over-the-hill girlfriend when it was live action), but NOT the Vuelta a Espana (Heras won). OLN was cheapskate enough to not take a live feed from any European network. They only needed two translators - none, if it was done in English. I know Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwin were there commentating for some other network.

It's a good guess than OLN won't cover Le Tour as extensively before Lance retired (I hope for good). As a diehard road biker and a diehard skier (I bike to get in shape for skiing) - OLN has dropped the ball on its coverage of both sports.

When did figure skating become a sport? Swimming is not a sport, neither is diving, and neither is curling. I stopped watching figure skating when Katarina Witt retired - man, she is still a babe.
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