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how to clean and lubricate ski bindings?

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
unfortunatly last season i did take my skiis a couple times on top of the roof... and today i took the bindings apart and i found alot of dirt, grime ( black dust) and does any one know of anything i could buy at like homedepot or hardware store to clean and lubricate this, (i have almost evry tool for tuning but nothing for lubing, and i guess the cleaning could be done with some mild detergent) i looked at my ski shop but they don't have anything for cleaning bindings. i have look p14 bindings if that helps you answer my question...

thnx.
post #2 of 26
Plastic parts? or all metal?

If they were my all-metal bindings, I would take them appart wash them down with wd40 just because it's available and I don't have access to a mechanics parts washer or other degreasers, many of which are toxic. Then I would make sure they were free of any residual oil (because any wd40 will wash off any grease you put on otherwise) and apply binding grease. They would have to be really good bindings for me to go through all that trouble when you consider the cost of getting a good indemnified binding on sale. Then I would notice two "extra" screws and go out and buy the new bindings anyways.
post #3 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ghost
Then I would notice two "extra" screws and go out and buy the new bindings anyways.
I guess you went to the same tech school as me...
post #4 of 26
DO NOT Attempt to re-lube or grease your bindings. Modern bindings are not designed to be relubed, and do not need it providing that you treat them decently, a few road trips in top of the car will not be that bad for them.

The vast majority of all bindings on the market have at least some plastic parts that can be very easily damaged by the solvents found in most greases and lubricants.
post #5 of 26
Maybe you should invest in a $20 binding cover for when you let your skis ride on the roof. It would save you all this aggrevation down the road.
post #6 of 26
According to the Salomon shop manual, the heel tracks should be relubed with Salomon grease or equivalent every 30 days. The look Look/Rossi shop manuals say to relube the mechanical AFD's with waterproof grease at the same interval, but they say nothing about about the heel tracks. Binding innards are not user servicable as mtbakerskier was probably referring to.

Also, Look says to use silicone lubricant everywhere the boot contacts the binding, but Salomon specifically states not to use it anywhere. Holmenkol says their silicon binding lube makes bindings safer.

Personally, I relube my heel tracks (Salomon and Atomic) once or twice a season and that's it. I have no experience with any silicon binding sprays.

-T
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
so i cant clean them...? they are in good shape but i am a perfectionist, and the guy who was wondering how much they're worth the look p14's are about 200 us dollars new... if i decide to clean it do i just use water??? and where do i buy that silicon lube everyone is talking about (can i buy it at homedepot).

in my look manual it says "regular maintenance along with good boot are important for proper funtioning of your boot/binding system.....To clean your ski bindings, use soapy water. Do not use warm water, water under pressure or solvents"

if i clean it like this what do i use after cleaning to lube it up bcus it doesnt say anyhting about lubbing.

thnx for the responses.
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
well heres the scoop, i just immeresed my bindings in a solution of lukewarm water and soap, and i got rid of most of the dirt and grime by rinsing them carefully of the soap, and i can see that most of the lube is still in tact so i think i did a good job and i guess the lube look uses is waterproof bcus it didn't come off... just in case when i put this all back togethor when it dries does any one know of any water proof lube similar to this one that i cna buy somewhere???
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
and also does anyone know how to polish or buff the top of a ski if it has scratches... do i use a wax???? with my buffing pad???

btw bindings have dried, ther still is a little water inside where the needle is pointing to the DIN number but i will wait till tommorw for that to dry...
post #10 of 26
Staffpro - I'm really kind of wondering (and sort of chuckling at the fact) of how you arrived at the idea to SUBMERGE your bindings in water to clean them. You'll probably be OK as long as they really can thoroughly dry out, but I don't think the manufacturers every intended for their ski bindings to be completely submersed in water for any length of time.

Maybe some of the folks who participate in the Spring puddle crossing rituals can comment on how bindings fair after being completely submerged.
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
non no i think u misunderstood i submerged them for like 2 minutes max then i rinsed them and now thye are pretty much dry except for the part on look bindings the axial part ta the back where thers the clear plastic i can see sum water inside so ill wait till tommrow to mount them, and besides i think most of the grease that was originally on the parts is still ther as it is water proof so i didnt harm my bindings in any way i just cleaned them up nice, thye nice and shiny now but i wud stil like to know is it possible to buy waterproof grease for bindings sumwhere like a hardware store
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by staffpro
and also does anyone know how to polish or buff the top of a ski if it has scratches... do i use a wax???? with my buffing pad???

btw bindings have dried, ther still is a little water inside where the needle is pointing to the DIN number but i will wait till tommorw for that to dry...
OK. From my perspective you're overdoing it. Skis get trashed, top and bottom. Ice and snow is a harsh environment. Enjoy it. Bindings only have to do one thing and that's hold your boot to your ski until they decide to release. There's nothing too complicated in them and they're designed for the harsh conditions. Perhaps you're killing them with kindness ?

If you ever skied in Europe you'd know that ski tops are going to get trashed in the lift line. The only thing I do, occasionally, if it's Beethoven's wedding anniversary or something, is put some bike lubricant (tri flow ?) on the tops of my skis to stop the snow from sticking. Most of the time I'm in too much of a hurry to enjoy my skiing, or boating, or hiking, or .... to bother. Sounds like you've got some snow fever. Relax, it's coming.

ps. Check out a ski area resident's equipment sometime. Other than ski instructors, who have to maintain some semblance of trendiness, you'll see just how beat-up equipment can get and still work fine. Else sell them your year-old stuff and get the new gear
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by staffpro
non no i think u misunderstood i submerged them for like 2 minutes max then i rinsed them and now thye are pretty much dry except for the part on look bindings the axial part ta the back where thers the clear plastic i can see sum water inside so ill wait till tommrow to mount them, and besides i think most of the grease that was originally on the parts is still ther as it is water proof so i didnt harm my bindings in any way i just cleaned them up nice, thye nice and shiny now but i wud stil like to know is it possible to buy waterproof grease for bindings sumwhere like a hardware store
Dude - you do realize (I know I'm stating the obvious here) that you can't see inside of your bindings, so how do you know that there isn't more water trapped in there? Maybe you could hear it if you shake them and I suppose the manufacturers would build them to drain if water got in them, but still... if you were just wanting to clean them up then why submerge them and provide a "path" for the contaminants and dirt to get inside of the binding even more than it may have already been? Sorry, but it sure wouldn't have been my method of choice. I don't want to overly concern you - I just want to provide some "food for thought" for anyone else that reads this thread and suddenly decides that this sounds like a good idea. It definitely didn't sound like a good idea to me, but I'm hoping for some other opinions.
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
ye i understand, i dont think i damaged the bindings in any way... i mite air dry them just to mkae you happy lol... besides ther is still a good month before the ski season so thye will still have plenty of time ot dry.

and.... i think some people are taking me a bit too seriosly when i said ther was a bit of dirt on the inside and under the binding i menat really little, not a huge pile of dirt... so i dont thing anything got inside the binding as when i submerged them then rinsed them the water was almost clear.
post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
if it makes anyone happier i will post some pics tommorow.... and you guys will see that i didn't harm my bindings...
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by staffpro
and also does anyone know how to polish or buff the top of a ski if it has scratches... do i use a wax???? with my buffing pad???
They are skis and they are meant to be used. If you are so worried about them getting scratches and a little dirty why don't you just hang them up on you wall and stare at them: .
post #17 of 26
Thread Starter 
no it's just i cant freaking wait till it starts snowing!!!!!! and tuning makes me feel closer to snow, if that makes any sense. It's the first of october and all u ppl living close to the rockies ar lucky bastards but i live in toronto the nearest resort bluemountain it wont snow till like the first week of december, the good thing is tho for christmas break i am planning on going to chamonix... that will be nice, i cant wait!!! it will be my first time to the alps
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by staffpro
it will be my first time to the alps
Oh my ! Hopefully you know about lift lines in Europe. It's carnage. Man against man, nation against nation. Forget about fixing the top of your skis. Honest.
post #19 of 26
Staffpro....


Submerging your bindings to clean them is a good idea. Just make sure and dry them with a blow dryer after. I recommend the use of a light to medium hold styling gel also.

Good luck.
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
styling gel??? sound like a good idea




im just joking.
post #21 of 26

Jeez, water is going to ruin your bindings?

What is snow?

If you have a slop sink, use a hose to clean the grime off.

If you are worried about water getting into the spring areas,

hair drier.

post #22 of 26

I did a complete cleaning of my bindings at the beginning of this season, some Dynastar PX 12s. They were on my rock skis when I went real late last year, and were covered in mud and such when I was ready to move them to some new skis this year, but had only been used a few times. I took every thing that was screwed together apart, ending up where each toe and heel piece was in about 4 separate pieces, then scrubbed everything with warm water and some dish soap until it sparkled. After drying them off I let them sit in the sun for about 24 hours, until all of the condensation in the DIN window was gone. While I put them back together every moving part got a generous helping of white lithium grease, and I put them on the new skis.

 

I'm sure there was still some water deep down inside them, but I trust ski bindings can handle that, as they are made to spend their time in H2O of one form or another. As far as the grease, I have no idea if white lithium is the right stuff to use, but its a great wide temperature long lasting grease, and I had some already so I think it will be fine. I'll update this if they disintegrate on me. When I brought them to skimd for a tune, I was told they were great bindings, so I didn't do anything too wrong.

 

Is it a waste of time, probably, but some people love to keep all of their equipment in top shape. These are the people who's tools are all razor sharp and take new things apart just for the hell of it. I'm sure with a little common sense this can be done without doing any damage to the binding, and have them tested when your done to make sure.

 

-Joe-

post #23 of 26

Funny how this thread was resurrected by someone posting spam.

post #24 of 26

Haha nice, I did not notice that. I guess my brains spam filter was working and I didn't see that post.

 

-Joe-

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post #26 of 26

i was just cruising the internet looking for ways to grease fks and i didnt find any. people told me that im stupid and to just leave them alone. so i made this video on how to grease them and it has worked wonders for me. no more sticky turntable and arms. hope this may help others out as i posted it on ns. peace out epic ski :) 

 

http://www.newschoolers.com/membervideo/770851.0/how-to-grease-your-fks?s=214266&t=6&o=8#xEbgHiORsJIlpWMU.97

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