Originally Posted by ATskier
What don't you like about my statement? I find that you are in agreement with it. It seems to me that many men can get bogged down in technical differences in skiis. I had a great climbing experience with 210 metal edged skinny skiis and skins up the extremely steep slopes in Telluride. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what you use as long as you use it correctly.
Well, maybe I misinterpreted you when you seemed to be saying that a.) serious sidecut skis must be a pain and a hindrance on traverses or climbs and, b.) that a man would get used to whatever length he ended up using.
My point (I think) was that I know of essentially no one who does a lot of backcountry skiing who seems to consider sidecut any sort of major inhibitor to the uphill or downhill legs of backcountry skiing. I don't even buy the old saw that a heavy-sidecut ski is somehow a liability in very steep, very hard couloirs (because supposedly the tips and tails "hang up" and leave the middle of the ski suspended).
My second point was that while a man can certainly get used to long skis (my first dedicated backcountry skis were semi-retired 210cm K2 812's), Oleh's question had to do with what length ski he should buy, not what he should try to get used to.
What I said was that *if* I were buying a ski primarily for backcountry (outside of a resort) skiing and *if* I were planning to do quite a lot of steep, switchback skinning, I would buy shorter. That's not just my opinion - I could name you a boatload of very experienced backcountry skiers who have come to the same conclusion. My advice was based on the fact that he told us he would be spending a high percentage of his time inbounds. I even said that, given those pre-conditions, I would recommend longer.
The question wasn't about self-flagellation or what a reasonably motivated skier *could* do with enough time and hard work, it was about which pair of skis to buy to give him the most enjoyment now. Forgive me, but it doesn't sound like you've done much uphill, switchback skinning on long skis and AT bindings in deep powder. If you had, I think you would probably know that the longer the ski, the more of a pain in the ass it is to kickturn them in deep snow on a steep skin track. The more switchbacks, the more of a pain it becomes. And just in my own experience, the longer ski doesn't give *enough* improved performance on the descent to make up for the PITA factor on the climb in those circumstances,
I think you and I still disagree.