|posted by TomB:Glad this has been entertaining for you BobMc. Let me spell out what was not so entertaining:
1) How the administrators failed to take decisive action when faced with clear racism
2) How people have managed to twist words and meanings (see racist, overseer, hate, lynch-mob) to suit their pacifist attitudes and political correct inclinations.
3) How people failed to recognize clear racism when it hit them in the face
4) How twisted freedom of speech and expression has become when it is used to protect one of the worst forms of persecution.
Still think it is funny?
For this reason, I am joining Lars in a hiatus. I'd like to answer this post, as I'm sure it's representative of the attitude I dislike so much.
1) They did not FAIL to take action. It took longer than the people All Fired Up were willing to give. Everyone is banned, along with some hotheaded people who started the blaze.
2)Being labelled a Pacifist and 'twisting words to suit a politically correct inclination' is a personal insult to me. Anyone who knows me certainly can't make that statement. Since I was very vocal in that thread, I can assume it was pointed at me some of the time.
The only thing I was sure of is that Xdog should be banned. I did NOT think the WAY it was being handled was appropriate by the people shouting for his banning. That put me on the side of racists. Truly a twisting, also.
3)I don't recall ANYONE not clearly seeing racism in his posts or advocating for it. Just because we don't deal with the problem by your methods (was there a civil one?) doesn't mean we are blind to it.
4)No one was PROTECTING persecution.
The only way this group wanted to deal with Xdog is to ban him. I happen to believe that that is only one way. I think there are other ways. I also happen to believe that you can't change a racists attitude by not communicating with them. A horrible thought to some, and I was firehosed for it (thank you ryan, for the great metaphor!
My biggest complaint was that we all broke the rules. We poisoned the forums with this huge argument that should have been in the Lounge. In the past, we had problems with political, religious, and other heated discussions in the other forums, and they have no place there. This was no exception, only some thought it was right to expose it to the skiing side and everyone who reads Epic.
Because I felt it wrong to publicly roast a known racist this way (or pedophile, rapist, murderer, or anyone in a category some will not tolerate), I have been ridiculed, despised, and roasted myself. I've never had so many hateful pm's......all from the people who claim to hate racists! (yes, I can say 'hate racists' because that's what it looks like to me). It seems there is a new category: racists, racists haters, and now, racist sympathizers.......if you're not a racists hater. WTF.
I don't need this either.
I think banning Xdog was the right decision. It was right from the start.
I think banning the people who incited these threads was right also.
I think that the moderators took their time with a weighty decision and that they did the right thing in the end. What's clear to you may not be clear to everyone, obviously.
I think I should be banned for trying to stop it and take the arguing out of the general population. I just added fuel to the fire. I should have let you guys continue to wave torches.
Since no one has banned me, I'm doing it temporarily so that you can all feel good about yourselves again, as I'm sure you wanted my head, too.
Enjoy your website.