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Ski Gear Weight

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hi, I am looking at buying some new skis, boots and bindings this year. I have tried out "snow blades" and although I don't want to be using them very often, one of the things I liked about them was how light they were. Because of this, I am trying to find some lighter skis and bindings (and even boots). Currently I ski on a pair of 2000 Bandit XX's with Salomon 810s bindings. I am an advanced intermediate skiier, and spend time all over the mountain, but I'm not overly concerned about speed. I'm 6' and weigh 165 lbs.

I have been told the Goode Carbon skis are pretty light, but they're usually around $1000. Does anyone have any other suggestions that might be a little cheaper, how about Atomic's new Izor?

The other thing I've noticed is that a lot of companies don't even list the weight of their skis, bindings or boots on the "specs" portion of their websites, so it's hard to get direct comparisons.

Anyway, I appreciate any help or suggestions that anyone can offer.
post #2 of 12
I have a pair of 5-6y old 180cm Olin ski's that I use for off pist. They are soft foam core CAP skis and fitted with Rave Pre bindings. Both skis and bindings weights almost halfe compared to my race department carving skis.
post #3 of 12
In my opinion your going off in a direction based on a false assumption. Just because you enjoyed the light weight of skiboards does not mean you will necessarily want a light weight full length ski. No matter how "light" a full length ski it is it will still be significantly heavier than any 90-99cm skiboard.

My personal experience is that I prefer heavier, more solid full length skis and also enjoy the light weight of skiboards (I use them when teaching my kids). The longer length of a "real" ski puts you much more "in touch" with the snow. A heavier ski will smooth out the ride more so than a lighter ski (this of course is a generalization and there are exceptions).

I know you're trying to narrow your search for new skis based on your skiboard experience, but you really should widen your search to include other criteria that may be important to you.
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
I realize the benefits of heavier skis, especially on groomed slopes, however, I've also had knee surgery, and my knee can't handle a full day of turning heavy skis on the hill, especially on a powder day. Anyway, I would still appreciate suggestions on good light skis / bindings. Thanks.
post #5 of 12
I would probably go with something from Fischer. The Goode Carbon skis have a bad rep regarding their quality.

Regarding your complaints about skiing with a weak knee - my recommendation is that you should consider taking a lesson (or two) and working on your technique. You may be trying to twist/pivot/steer your skis too much (old school skills). On a modern shape ski it should be more of a tip 'em and rip 'em style. Your knees will love you for it.
post #6 of 12
I really enjoyed the light feeling of Solomon Equipe 10 SCs on Blue Mountain Ontario. They seemed to turn as if hooked up to fly-by wire. They felt a little iffy at speeds achieve by straightlining calamity lane( I'm guessing 35mph?) and couldn't handle the speed generated by Little devil(40mph?), but other than that they were great. If your looking for a short-turner and not into high speed you should be able to get some of these left-over cheap.

Edit: Don't sell the Bandits, the Equipe SCs little skis do get kocked about by big piles of heavy slush.

I just noticed the XX on your bandits, I don't think the SC is a big-mountain ski, more of a groomed snow short-turn machine. I didn't get a chance to see how it performed in deeper snow. It might not be what your looking for. Please tell us where you intend to ski.
post #7 of 12
The following is a list of lightweight fat skis (good for powder) with weights given in grams per 100 centimeters. To use this, if you buy 180 centimeter skis, multiply the weight by 1.8; 160 centimeters multiply by 1.6. Data is mostly from Couloir guide and was posted on TGR (not my work). Allow me to draw your attention to the very versitile and powder worthy Volkl Mantra. Many of these are intended for backcountry use and emphasis is on lightweight gear.

goode carbon 95, 125/95/113, 659g
goode carbon 116, 138/116/124, 694g
dynafit FR 10.0 carbon 118/88/110, 781g
dp (ex db skis) wailer 126/95/113 835g
voile carbon surf, 122/88/114, 888g
volkl T-rock, 119/87/111, 907g
black diamond havoc 118/88/110, 909g (girl version=lyric)
karhu jak bc 124/90/113, 916g
fischer T-stix 88 124/88/114 985g
dp (ex db skis) lotus, 142/120/127, 991 g
K2 mount baker, 122/89/108, 1000g
movement thunder, 120/87/109, 1038g
PMGear BRO model, 125/99/114, 1047g
AK king salmon 125/94/115, 1067g
G3 reverend, 126/93/114, 1068g
voile insane, 140/109/132, 1070g.
karhu jak 124/90/113, 1073g
movement gladiator, 125/92/113, 1093g
volkl mantra, 130/94/113, 1094g
fischer t-stix 92 127/92/115, 1099g
fischer t-stix 96, 131/96/119, 1100g
karhu jak team edition, 134/100/125, 1100g
Atomic Janak 123/99/115, 1112g
black diamond verdict 124/98/114, 1115g
K2 work stinx, 124/88/111, 1138g
K2 hippy stinx, 128/95/118, 1198g
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Wow, thanks for the great suggestions and information, it is very helpful. In terms of where I ski, I'm all over the mountain, but I don't mind struggling in powder a bit if the ski performs well on groomed or hard-packed slopes, although I still pefer something fairly versatile. Also, I ski only in the Rockies in Western Canada (so I'm guessing the snow is significantly drier than in Eastern Canada / US) - I'm not sure how that would impact the type of ski I buy.
post #9 of 12
maybe look into the salomon 1080's, or foil, they are spaceframe foam core skis and are lighter than most.

post #10 of 12
2004 Atomic R9's have to be among the lighter skis out there. Was a popular touring ski for that reason. Quite versatile cruisers and worth trying to get hold of.
post #11 of 12
As Cirquerider mentions, for the love of god, buy a pair of Mantras! Just take a look on a test of Mantras and you will see the testers saying that it feels like skiing on the boots... The Mantra is a super ski in the pistes, and a super ski in the powder, you wont regret a buy. So what are you waiting for, go buy a pair!!!
post #12 of 12
Many Fischer ski models tend to have a light feel on the snow. However, from the parking lot to the slopes they are not particularly light since many models have wood cores and metal. A pair with bindings either Fischer or Tyrolia typically weighs in at around 16lbs (if my home scale is accurate.) The lightest pair that I've owned, the RX-9 weighs about 15lbs. with railflex bindings. Their AMC line eg. AMC73, AMC 76 etc., have composite wood/carbon/titanium cores and may be lighter. Otheerwise, Salomon or other foam core skis may well prove lighter, in fact.
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