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05/06 Nordica HOT ROD LINE

post #1 of 18
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Everybody whats your take ...a.k.a what do u think about the series. I am getting a Top Fuel in the next couple of weeks but have given the modified some thought because for the most part i am on piste. Nordica and many reviews claim that the Top Fuel is a super ski and is agrueably the best "one ski quiver of the year" I am not sure what to think as i have never skied it. But with the components its got and the comsumer base its aimed at its...pretty respectable. Obvious the Nitrous and the Eliminater are the lower end skis in the line but what i am really wondering is how the Top Fuel and the Modified line up against the best of other companies all mountain midfats?
post #2 of 18
The best overall recommendation that I can make on the line is this. I was invited to the Nordica intro in Vail last January. At the time I was a Nordica boot dealer but not skis (I had 9 other lines). When I left the intro, I left an order behind......they are just that good.

Specifically:

Nitrous: Not a low end ski at all. Equal or better than many other companies top stuff.

Top Fuel: Tremendous power and grip for a wider mid fat. Feels like a wide race ski.

Modified: Probably the best choice for you as it has the guts of the TF but in a more moderate shape.

Hope this is some help.

SJ
post #3 of 18
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Tf?
post #4 of 18
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thank u for your response ooo what would be your comparison of the modified vs. the Top Fuel? Like the difference and the +'s and -'s
post #5 of 18

Top Fuel

I can't give you a rundown of the entire line like Jim did, but I've skied the Top Fuel.

Basically, its flat out amazing. Nordica skis went from junk to the top of the industry in record time. My mid-fats the last two years were Volkl 724 Pros and the Top Fuels put them to shame in every way. I couldn't have been more surprised.

The TFs ski like a wide GS race ski. The term "like a GS" gets carelessly thrown around a lot. But these actually do feel like race ski. The width up front makes them crud destroyers, and the shape makes them really pull into turns.

The shape/sidecut isn't as exaggerated as something like a Metron, so its not as much of a one trick pony. Also, the shape has a fairly tapered tail, so you dont feel locked in a turn. Easy to carve or smear when you need it.

Finally, the gimmicky balance plate is for real. When you look at the ads and even see the thing in person its hard to believe it actually does something. But I swear to god, you can actually feel it working. When I hopped back on my Volkls afterward I noticed it missing immediately. I want this thing on ALL my skis now

Only drawback with Nordica right now is being stuck with Marker bindings. And I'm more than willing to be on Markers so I can have the TF and balance plate. Its that good.
post #6 of 18
The difference is 4mm through the length of the ski (TF is wider all the way), the construction and x-balance system are the same.


The plus and minus is really the same with these as with any other skis. The wider ski adds lift in deeper snow, but takes away some edge to edge quickness. The TF seems to need a little higher edge angle for a specific turn shape. Both skis have buckets of power and edge grip, the choice would be dependant upon how often you expect to ski more than 10-12" of snow depth. I ski in the sierras and will probably add a Nitrous or TF to my quiver this year.

SJ
post #7 of 18
i pro rep for nordica

had a top fuel for six weeks last winter. it is my all time favorite ski. i've yet to find something it doesn't do well. in the past i needed a quiver. now.....just one ski
post #8 of 18
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haha that sounds good
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Rusty Guy
i pro rep for nordica

had a top fuel for six weeks last winter. it is my all time favorite ski. i've yet to find something it doesn't do well. in the past i needed a quiver. now.....just one ski
Of course it is!! you are a pro rep!! untill something better comes along!!
post #10 of 18
Wow, great reviews. Like Rusty I'm a Nordica pro rep., but I'm on the East coast at Whiteface Mt. I got my Top Fuels in March and agree with Rusty that they are the best ski I’ve ever been on. Of course I ski on hard pack a lot and the ski works great on it, tremendous edge hold. The Modified would certainly be a great choice as well, but don’t go off the Top Fuel because it is 4mm wider, tip to tail. It doesn’t matter, they work great on hard and soft snow and are quick edge to edge.

post #11 of 18
I demoed the Nitrous along with the Apache Recon and found that the two couldn't have been more different. I found the Recon dull - it just felt heavy and sluggish. This may of course have been down to my skiing ability, but the Nitrous were a different story. They felt full of life and really encouraged speed.

Sandman, I wouldn't call the Nitrous a 'low end ski' - I don't think any of the Hot Rods are. But as I understand it, it is less stiff than the Top Fuel which is maybe better suited to experts than the more approachable Nitrous. I think most people would love the Nitrous and they are on my shopping list!
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by skifordad
Of course it is!! you are a pro rep!! untill something better comes along!!
I pro repped for Volant for years..I went and bought some Metrons.
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I pro repped for Volant for years..I went and bought some Metrons.
It wasn't quite that simple, grasshopper...
post #14 of 18
Hi all,
i'm thinking about getting about either the Top Fuel or Modified in 178cm. I'm doing this season in Niseko, Japan and then to Aus for the Aussie ski season and will be doing my final full-cert instructor exams there. Both skis sound like they would be a great all-rounder esp. the Top Fuel in Japan for the powpow.

Has anyone skied either of them through bumps? I guess neither would be ideal, but thats alright so long as they are do-able. Also how is the Top Fuel for groomer short turns?

Cheers
post #15 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by skifordad
Of course it is!! you are a pro rep!! untill something better comes along!!
i don't know where you are going with this, however, i feel;

1. it's only ethical to make the disclaimer.
2. as someone mentioned nordica's rise has been amazing.
3. there have been skiis in their line i have not been wild about and i have said so.

just a little more info. i've not been on the nitrous or eliminator. i thought the modified skiied just like a speedmachine, hence, why not enjoy the wider platform afforded by the top fuel?

what i think is really great is that all the skis in a given length have the same turn radius. al a customer needs to do is pick the construction they prefer (titanal or not) and a width under foot.

as for bumps the top fuel is great. i work at winter park/mary jane. it would be an ideal exam ski.
post #16 of 18
I too would like to hear more about bumps. Skiing the East I want an off piste ski. But good skiing in the East means bumps too. The Volkl AC4 has been looking pretty good to me, but Volkl does have a problem with bending.

Which one of these Nordicas would work under these conditions? The AC4 has an aggresive mid fat sidecut and I like to turn.
post #17 of 18
This answer will suggest a series of tradeoffs and compromises.

The AC-4 is wide but has a surprisingly light and manueverable feel for such a big ski. Of course, it offers great Volkl edge grip but it does have metal and there is always some bending risk. Wider is IMO not always better for somebody who skis (on) the snow rather than (in or under) it most of the time.

Top Fuel/Modified: Tons of grip from both and both have somewhat of a heavier more damp feel than the Volkl. The TF (can) be skiied pretty short so that helps the quickness factor but the AC-4 in 177 feels slightly more tossable than the TF in 170. For a mostly eastern hard snow ski, I'd think the Modified would probably be a better choice. Both of these have metal so the bend risk may be there as well but it is too soon to tell.

Nitrous: Wide and fairly heavy like the TF but easier going. No metal so it sacrifices some edge grip although it's still pretty good. Nitrous can also be skiied in a fairly short size like a 170 for joe average.

Not to throw a fly in the peanut butter but another wide ski that has good edge grip but a light, quick feel is the Fischer AMC 79. It does have metal but it is not full width, and might be something to think about.

As always, there are more variables to think about than are first apparent.

SJ
post #18 of 18
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i am going with a 162 nordy TF ...i promise i will right a really good review on it after i have skied it a couple times. i will review it in consideration of bumps, pow (if possible), handling, speed, performance, stiffiness, and overall feel

P.S.



I am excited just 2 get out and ski it!!!
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