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Smith Turbo Goggle

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Tramdock.com, part of Backcountry, I think, has Smith Knowledge fan goggles on sale for $104. As a glasses wearer, I'm tempted. Do they really work?
post #2 of 24
I too wear glasses and have wondered for years whether these goggles work and are worth the money. I also have wondered whether a helmet would interfere with the air intake which I believe is at the top of the goggle.
post #3 of 24
They worked great for me, even with a helmet. I had tried many goggles that claimed increased air flow, but my glasses always fogged until I used the Turbos. I bought mine on E-bay for < $100.
post #4 of 24
Before I switched to contacts I had a pair of turbo goggles I used with glasses. They worked way better than anything else I tried.
post #5 of 24
I don't wear glasses and love the smith turbo goggles. They are well worth a $100.00 I have been using them for the past 4 years or so.
People on the lift always ask if the little battery pack is some sort of camera.
post #6 of 24
Terrific product. I'm a glasses wearer from the 1940s, and until I got the Smith turbo, I always ended up with fogged or messy glasses inside my goggles. None of the anti-fog crap (including cat crap) worked for me without messing up lens clarity. Years ago, I had some Uvex goggles with a fan that blew in on my glasses and eyes. Caused dry eyes and was only partially effective. The Smith system has the fan blow out the top of the frame, sucking air in from all around the bottom and sides. I've used them for several years now. Helmets don't cause a problem unless they sit really low on the forehead. You'd want to try on helmets with the goggles. They don't need much clearance to work.
post #7 of 24
I'm a life long glasses wearer. Buy 'em. They work.
post #8 of 24
Besides fogging my glasses and the goggles, I have the problem of my eyes tearing when the goggles let in too much air at speed. How do these Turbos handle high speeds on cold days (not that I would do such a thing of course)?
post #9 of 24
Got mine over 10 years ago, only goggles that ever kept me fog free!!

Ghost: the batteries won't last if you keep them running, you only turn them for short periods.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ghost
Besides fogging my glasses and the goggles, I have the problem of my eyes tearing when the goggles let in too much air at speed. How do these Turbos handle high speeds on cold days (not that I would do such a thing of course)?
Most of the turbo models I've seen have Regulator lenses in them. The Regulator lenses have front vents that can be closed if you are getting too much air.

The turbo fan in the frame blows up sucking in air from all sides of the frame. You don't even notice the fan is on except for the noise.
post #11 of 24
I have ones that I like as well, but echo the comment of trying them with the helmet.

The angle that the strap comes around the helmet (for some helmets) affects the stap and can pull on the frame. The frame around the fan can then be mis-shaped causing the fan blades to catch on the frame.

I never have trouble without a helmet, but a Leedom Cut helmet cause the fan blades to catch once in a while.

YMMV
post #12 of 24
Best thing you can do is to take your helmet with you and try them with it. My son had two helmets that were not compatable with the battery placement .... one was a Leedom.
post #13 of 24
I have the Smith Turbo fan goggle, wiht the ocular docking system (prescription inserts) and ski with a Leedom cut helmet. I had a lot of trouble with the fan getting knocked around, especially in falls. It isn't that hard to readjust the fan, but it takes some effort, and it isn't always obvious when the fan has been knocked out of alignment, until you are skiing. If the fan is out of alignment the defogging comes to a halt and the goggles are no better than, and may be worse than, other brands. My current goggles are the large frame model,and I am thinking that the medium frame model might be more compatible with the helmet.

In previous years I have skied using bolle goggles with prescription inserts. IMO the Smith inserts are easier to deal with and less prone to fogging.
post #14 of 24

Ok, so I picked up a pair of Smith Knowledge Turbo, and they won't fit with my Bolle helmet (squashes down on the nose).

Will they go with ANY Smith helmet, or is there a particular line of Smith Helmet they must be paired with?

post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

Ok, so I picked up a pair of Smith Knowledge Turbo, and they won't fit with my Bolle helmet (squashes down on the nose).

Will they go with ANY Smith helmet, or is there a particular line of Smith Helmet they must be paired with?


Could it be the nose may be faulty and not the goggles or helmet? :rolleyes

 

Sorry that was too good not to take a shot at. ;)

 

Cheers and have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

post #16 of 24

I think a new helmet is cheaper than a new nose :), although if I got a new nose, maybe I could get one with higer air-flow capacity.  Hmm...

post #17 of 24

I use mine with Giro helmet. Works just fine. You should consider the prescription insert for them too. Not expensive and even better at not fogging up than sticking glasses underneath because the glasses are always the same temp as the goggle. Hardly ever even have to use the fan. But yes it works when you need it. Just make sure you have an extra battery in your pocket!

post #18 of 24

I have worn my smith turbo goggles with several different helmets, Giro (Fuse Flare and Seam), Poc Fornix,  and Pret. 

post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by Mom View Post
 

I use mine with Giro helmet. Works just fine. You should consider the prescription insert for them too. Not expensive and even better at not fogging up than sticking glasses underneath because the glasses are always the same temp as the goggle. Hardly ever even have to use the fan. But yes it works when you need it. Just make sure you have an extra battery in your pocket!

This depends on the weather and also where you ski and how you ski!

 

I had an operation on my eye and could not wear contacts for a season a few years back.

 

I had nothing but trouble with the Smith prescription inserts fogging up.  I wear a helmet, ski hard and we get a fair amount if not a lot of humidity and just below freezing temps. here. 

 

I resorted to using  Fog-tech http://www.motosolutions.com/fogtech.html on the Smith prescription inserts and had to reapply at lunch. Just too much moisture for the fan to remove and I ski warm. Also any hiking or off piste skiing where you are working hard exacerbates the fogging and is an issue even with the fan on high. 

 

Love the Turbo's with contacts though! I only wear my contacts skiing, soft lenses and I have a lot of astigmatism. Contacts work amazingly well skiing! I would NEVER wear glasses skiing unless I had absolutely no other choice! 


Edited by Atomicman - 12/25/14 at 11:18am
post #20 of 24

Had the Knowledge turbos, smith vantage helmet, large frame glasses and nose was getting squished

 

just put up with it

 

Changed over to the IO/X turbos and the fit was so much better with my glasses and the vantage helmet

post #21 of 24

Smith Prophecy goggles (non-turbo) with Smith prescription insert solved my many years old fogging problem. The combination was recommended to me by a fellow Steep/Deep camper at Jackson Hole three years ago when she saw me fiddling with my goggles repeatedly. Bought IO/Xs (non-turbo) last year for a killer price from Level 9, and they do just as well, if not better. Smith says that their helmets are designed to integrate with the goggles synergistically (of course they would), and I made the switch from Giro to maximize my chances at success. The all-Smith combination may or may not contribute to my success in finally banishing the fogging problem, but they certainly do make for a nice, complete look. Last year I recommended the IO/X turbos to a friend who has always had an even worse fogging problem, and he loves them. Smith certainly has us prescription glasses skiers figured out.

post #22 of 24

I guess it's the nose; I went in and tried on a bunch of Smith helmets and all of them caused the goggles to pinch my nose.  Maybe I need to take a bastard file to my Bolle helmet. I would be happy wearing a touque, but CSP requires we wear helmets.

post #23 of 24

I have a Giro Seam (tried several other helmets, including Smith) and I've come to think it's where the brim of the helmet sits on the forehead vs height of the goggle position above the eyes.  I've tried my Anon M2 goggles with my Giro helmet, for example, and they push down slightly on my nose.  My IO/X Turbo, however, don't push down.  Compared side by side, the M2 are slightly taller than the IO/X, so the upper rim of the M2 goggle hits the lower brim of the helmet.  Hence the nose pressure.

 

I tried Smith helmets, and despite their promise of awesome Smith goggle integration, they didn't fit my head very well at all.  Giro works for my noggin, both ski and bike helmets.  I'll be using the IO/X Turbos from now on, the M2's are pi$$ing me off with their fogging up, in addition to the nose pressure.

post #24 of 24
I have the Smith Turbo-fan & w/Rx insert and a Giro seam helmet. The fan outlet is on the top of the goggle and lines up pretty close to a vent thru the front of the helmet. I get hot & can still fog them up (mainly the glasses) but it's way way better than anything else I've tried. Before the turbo-fan, fogging made it impossible to wear glasses. Now it's usually not an issue and at its worst its a minor inconvenience - doesn't blind me. I do recommend Lithium batteries as they continue to work in very cold conditions - alkaline batteries stop working at very low temps but the lithium keep on going. More coin but worth it.
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