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post #31 of 53
Thanks Gary, I'll check out the NASTAR forum. Jane is fired up - we'll see if she can figure out how to stay between the gates all the way down. It's hysterical - she'll be in the 1-4 year old category - I think we're in for some fun if she figures out it's a competition. She's already a little (too) competitive.
post #32 of 53
When she starts running gates, give us her NASTAR id so we can track her on the NASTAR web site! Me: HUL216 (no races this year, yet).
post #33 of 53

NASTAR Epic Ski Team?

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Originally Posted by janesdad
Thanks Gary, I'll check out the NASTAR forum. Jane is fired up - we'll see if she can figure out how to stay between the gates all the way down. It's hysterical - she'll be in the 1-4 year old category - I think we're in for some fun if she figures out it's a competition. She's already a little (too) competitive.
BTW, we have a lot of NASTAR Forum members with kids in Jane's age group. You'll find them up there. Again, welcome aboard.

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Me: HUL216 (no races this year, yet). SSH
So how many Bears do WE have out there running NASTAR? Do I see an Epic Ski Team "Friends and Family Team" forming? Or is there already one (I'll look on the pop-down menu here in a bit)?

Edit/Report - No Epicski.com NASTAR family and friends team. If anyone wants to start one and needs to know how, let me know.

I'm committed to other teams but all the Bears that do frequent NASTAR should probably form a team. A little camaraderie can be a good thing

Jane can be a good start for your Friends and Family Team
post #34 of 53
If you'll help me, Gary, I'll start it. It might even push me to make a few runs in the course this year!

Of course, on the B5s, I can't go very fast... Right, Rick?
post #35 of 53
Alright, I'm in...

LAP265 (Jane) AND LAP267 (Me)

Friends & Family Team: EpicSki Bears
post #36 of 53

EpicSki Bears NASTAR Family and Friends Team

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Originally Posted by ssh
If you'll help me, Gary, I'll start it. It might even push me to make a few runs in the course this year!

Of course, on the B5s, I can't go very fast... Right, Rick?
Jane's Dad did it

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Friends & Family Team: EpicSki Bears -janesdad
Of course, all you bears on the EpicSki Bears Family Friend Team can join Jane, Myself, Rick, Tommy, Liz and a dozen others on the Modern Ski Racing Team Club Team (the second pull down box in the Team Section).

As for the B5's, get yourself a pair of Z9's, the B5's will be a little tough on all but those VERY SOFT days and VERY STRAIGHT sets BTW SSH, a 14 Handicap at Copper ain't bad, I'm impressed! Was that on those B5's?:
post #37 of 53

Beginning

Incredible timing on this thread. My basics: second year skier, about 80 days, 54 years, 175 pounds, pretty good shape, decent carving skills (lots of lessons), on RX-9's and Lange comp 100 boots, too competitive for my own good.

Talked one of the instructors here with racing skills and mentioned NASTAR. He recommended going to the course and making a slow run. Got to the gate with the best intentions when another guy lined up next to me. The path to h*** is paved with good intentions. A quick start and the gates just came faster and faster, the turns later and later. Look where you want to go. My entire field of vision was the panel of the next gate, OK panic. I split the gate (for lack of a better expression) YARD SALE: . Helmets is good things. Time to get back on the horse.

The instructor I originally talked to saw it all. I'm now just working on setting the lines, not worrying about speed and dropping my times a second or so each run (from about 100 handicap to about 60 now). Just working under the theory of do it slow, easy and right and the speed will come. It's reminding me of interval training. I'm finding that I can set an estimated time and come pretty close on each run. It's simply fun.

Now I can think about lines, strategy, technique, angulation, sweeping gates (later), snow conditions and all those other wonderful factors. I need to obsess about something.

Here is something that I really like. Masters racing is far beyond my abilities. This format forces me to develop technique and skills in a non threatening enviornment.

If any of you guys have training tips, information, etc that I should consider I am most receptive. I may not be good, but I am coachable.

And, if I want to take a smidgen of truth and stretch it to the point of a lie. Yes, I do compete with Daron Rahlves: .

I'm running at Telluride: Male 50-54 EDM87.

Ohh, if you see me asking about racing suits you'll know it's getting really bad. (It's not something you'ld want to see at this age).

KenE
(Gate Splitter)
post #38 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenE
If any of you guys have training tips, information, etc that I should consider I am most receptive. I may not be good, but I am coachable.

And, if I want to take a smidgen of truth and stretch it to the point of a lie. Yes, I do compete with Daron Rahlves: .

I'm running at Telluride: Male 50-54 EDM87.

Ohh, if you see me asking about racing suits you'll know it's getting really bad. (It's not something you'ld want to see at this age).

KenE
(Gate Splitter)
There is a ton of NASTAR specfic tips here, the NASTAR Forum

NASTAR Technique and Tips

Use the search feature and search for "Start", "Tuck", "Hands", "Carving", "Bias", "Inside Ski", that should get your started.

Here's a pretty comprehensive post to get started on

Dranow's Tips

Some good basics in there early on in that thread.
post #39 of 53
I'm in. Who else?
post #40 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dranow
As for the B5's, get yourself a pair of Z9's, the B5's will be a little tough on all but those VERY SOFT days and VERY STRAIGHT sets BTW SSH, a 14 Handicap at Copper ain't bad, I'm impressed! Was that on those B5's?:
Spoken like a true company man...

No... that was on my RX8s last year. Still, they were pretty tight-turning skis (13m in 165?). We'll see how I can do this year on the B5s.
post #41 of 53

Gary

Gary,

Thank you so much. Got some reading to do. I've seen your posts before and your course times. Most impressive.

KenE
post #42 of 53
only one day on the record. Really the only day I've ever been in a race course.

ID CHA1565
post #43 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by dchan
only one day on the record. Really the only day I've ever been in a race course.

ID CHA1565
18 HC at Vail, again, very impressive, especially for a first timer! Now that you guys have a team, get out there and do it. If you guys ever want me out to help you along (or Rick, great race coach and local) let us know. I'm supposed to be going out to Teluride with Tommy sometime this January to check out their operation (one of the best from what I hear). I'll let you guys know when it gets scheduled. Maybe we can have a "gathering", I'm sure I can twist Rick's arm to be there

The other thing impressive about both David's and Steve's HC's is they were on longer courses (25 Seconds plus). The longer the course the harder it is to pull low handicaps against most pacesetters. Good job, guys!

KenE, you are very welcome, I try. I've been told that I'm "Trying", however :

SSH, me, a true company guy? Of course, but I REALLY BELIEVE IT I'm getting Z9's for my wife and I for those soft days, we are tired of trying to ski the pow, crud and soft, tight NASTAR courses on our Race Stock Skis. That's just too much work
post #44 of 53
I was with Ric Reiter taking a lesson and decided that since I was planning on taking my LIII that season I figured I better at least know how to "teach" an introduction to the race course. Up until that day I had always thought it would be fun to run a course but had never done so before.
post #45 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by dchan
I was with Ric Reiter taking a lesson and decided that since I was planning on taking my LIII that season I figured I better at least know how to "teach" an introduction to the race course. Up until that day I had always thought it would be fun to run a course but had never done so before.
Did you have fun?
post #46 of 53
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Originally Posted by Gary Dranow
Did you have fun?
YUP. gotta do it again sometime.
post #47 of 53
OK - I'm in too (just changed my team). The only time I've ever run NASTAR was last season and I ran the course on my Stormrider DPs (91mm under foot)! It was pretty hilarious and yet I was the fastest person on my team that day (and that's not saying much ). There were guys there in speed suits and race stock skis - I looked a little out of place .
post #48 of 53
Gary, if you've read my reviews, you know that I think the Z9s will be perfect for your use in those conditions (and any day when you'd like to relax). We'll have to see if I can improve my handicap without real GS skis. If I can get into Platinum range, I'll be pleased, and this year that means a 9.
post #49 of 53
We need one more to get the EpicSki team ranked... Who will it be?
post #50 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dranow
The other thing impressive about both David's and Steve's HC's is they were on longer courses (25 Seconds plus). The longer the course the harder it is to pull low handicaps against most pacesetters. Good job, guys!
Since I had never run a course of any length I had no idea. I thought they were supposed to be "uniform" I think it was snowing that day and very cold. I do remember that the snow was pretty soft.

No wonder we were so exhausted after 6 runs.:

DC
post #51 of 53

EpicSki Bears, Team Race and NASTAR Nationals

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Originally Posted by dchan
Since I had never run a course of any length I had no idea. I thought they were supposed to be "uniform" I think it was snowing that day and very cold. I do remember that the snow was pretty soft.

No wonder we were so exhausted after 6 runs.:

DC
Soft snow is tough and not ideal racing conditions. It is WAY more fun on firm snow (unless you are on Volkl Mantras or B5's )

When you guys get your team together I suggest you think about a "Gathering" somewhere that has NASTAR and have an EpicSki Bears Team Race. Most all venues will host whole or half day races for companies and/or associations. If you decide to do it, the MSR Team will be there.

Here's a link to the other EpicSki NASTAR team thread

The NASTAR Nationals are at Steamboat this year. Remember that the top three racers in each Division (Platinum, Gold and Silver), in each Age Group, and Category (Alpine, Snowboard, Tele, Disabled) from EACH AREA get an invite. If you haven't been to the show, it is a gas. Last year we had Darron Rhalves out, the year before it was Bode Miller! Darron will be there this year among other USST members, current and past. Yes, we run on the same course with them!
post #52 of 53
Ok. I joined in to the team, having spent hours with my 5 and 7 yr olds in NASTAR last week.

John
post #53 of 53
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Originally Posted by JohnN
Ok. I joined in to the team, having spent hours with my 5 and 7 yr olds in NASTAR last week.

John
Hey John, thanks for supporting the EpicSki Bears. If you are not on a club team I know a good one that can use you

Modern Ski Racing Team

By the way, SSH, glad to have you on board! Now get out there and run some gates, dang it!
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