Its just the rules
Originally Posted by vail99
At BC its pretty much every member of the Snowell team- plus a number of other local racers who compete in the town series. Its no big deal as Nastar is pretty much irrelevent to most serious skiers- but somehow suspect at best.
And yes the par times are often beaten especially on race days where everyone is already wearing their suits and run Nastar on the way to the course. Just seems unfair to re-HC the whole day cause par times are beaten-- isnt that the goal and the point to try and beat the par?
Actually no. Beating the pacesetter, sure. The par time is supposed to represent the time Darron Rhalves, the National Zero, would run the course and day in and day out Darron could probably nip most anyone, so 1's and 2's would be totally cool. No doubt there are plenty of Rocky Mountain Masters that could run a 1 or 2 handicap off of Darron on a 20 second course. I was at Loveland Valley Master GS's this December, you guys have a ton of fast guys and girls. Keep in mind that being fast in a Master's course doesn't always translate into being fast in "Sprint Racing" but surely sometimes does.
Back to your point, beating the par time is fine but the rules call for that racer to become the pacesetter as there is no way for the NASTAR database to deal with sub zero handicaps (unlike Golf). Its a theoretical wall, albeit within the possibility of being broken, but those are simply the rules for the system.
It really is the responsibility of the pacesetter to set a fair par time. There are days, however, where the conditions make it impossible for the pacesetter to lay down a fair time. An example is on a new snow day. If the pacesetter runs early then a bunch of racers in suits come out and create good ruts then of course he's going to get slaughtered. The PS can close the race when conditions are changing radically, open a new race and run again. As a racer I have no problem running against the PS in the same conditions, its only fair. I personally believe the Pacesetter should be able to run more than once during the day to keep things fair but this upsets the guy who got his first Gold ever, so close race 1 and open a new race, nobody gets hurt.
Edit: Pacesetters are supposed to have two HC's to help keep the par time a little out of reach. One in Warm Ups (Usually a higher HC) and one in a race suit. Most area pacesetters do not suit up for their runs, area policies, etc. Sometimes, however, the PS runs with his Suit HC in his coat and pants. He is easy to beat by the guy in his skivvies. This needs to be paid attention to or we get a lot of annoyed people. Details, details, details.
Master Racers are great racers and don't need no stinking NASTAR to prove what they can do, they've got their season standings in their division, says it all. Some of us (Master Racers), however, just enjoy sprint racing, so why not?
I really don't believe NASTAR is looking to knock us out of the game, just keep it as fair within the rules they have created as possible. Unlike Golf, we just don't have Minus Handicaps, its that simple.
BTW, I appreciate your position, been there too until I understood the constraints and the reason for them.