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post #151 of 158
Originally Posted by OXfreeride
brain bucket = $30

brain surgery= $150,000
This is a great point, then there is that cumulative affects of multiple concussions like slurring words, forgetting who your are, drooling all similiar to Pugilistic Dementia.
post #152 of 158
I never thought much about wearing a helmet until I started skiing as a church school chapperone. I felt it was necessary to be an example to the kids.

When it comes down to it....
I'd rather look a little dorky with helmet hair at the end of the day, than look really dorky with droole from my chin after a closed head injury.
post #153 of 158
I'm a bit late to the party on this thread, but here's my view. I wouldn't ski without one, nor will my son, nor will any of his friends. All too many skiers are hurt needlessly and skill is no insurance policy against a head injury. Broken bones can be healed with the loss of a ski season perhaps, brain injuries leave the skier either dead, or less of a person than the few seconds before. Ski helmets these days are stylish, colorful and don't interfere with any peripheral vision. Ski injuries caused by people without helmets cost all of us money in insurance costs. I remember reading somewhere in some thread that the costs to remove a skier from a mountain, airlift them to a brain surgery trauma center, and should they stay alive, the rehab costs afterwards were upwards of a $1 million over time.
post #154 of 158
Originally Posted by Gary Dranow
This is a great point, then there is that cumulative affects of multiple concussions like slurring words, forgetting who your are, drooling all similiar to Pugilistic Dementia.
Anyone who has tried to read my typing will concur.
post #155 of 158
Originally Posted by iskitoofast4u
From the various debates on Epicski, mainstream ski magazine literature, and some geek reading I did on my own, I'd say the jury is still out as to the level of protection a helmet provides. I've heard effective ceiling estimates as low as 15 m.p.h., which I'm willing to bet some of us average on the way into the liftline.
I think one of the biggest misconceptions is that people believe head injuries only occur in collisions. My reading has likewise shown that the jury is still out in most of the aspects of protection and relative safety researchers consider when looking at their data. A lot of those aspects don't have much to do with why I wear a helmet.

For me there are tangible benefits well worth wearing one outside of accidents that are of questionable survivability. I've hit my head hard enough for a minor concussion while wearing a good helmet without doing anything dangerous or out of the ordinary. I didn't run into anything, I just slapped my head against the snow really hard. Sadly and perhaps ironically, two people have died at my tiny little hill in the same manner in the last few years. Intermediate skiers simply fell on easy terrain and hit their heads hard enough to cause death. Both cases were during "loud powder" weather cycles.

Once I wasn't paying attention and got hit by the chair coming around the bullwheel in the back of the head...was also glad the helmet softened the headache. It also sucks a lot less to take a GS gate to the head with a nice hard helmet.
It's gotten to the point now where my helmet is like my seatbelt -- I feel naked without it.
Me too. I agree that the research doesn't really show a rock solid link between brain damaging accidents and helmet use. However, this is one of those times where I believe good sense may outstrip the current medical research. Maybe not, but I'd note that blacksmiths figured out how to make swords with hardened steel edges way before materials science was understood or researched.

Originally Posted by volantaddict
I know that the overwhelming majority of them are suffered in car accidents. I wonder how many of the safety conscious skiers wear their helmets as they drive home.
Excellent and almost irrefutable point. If I operated my skis like I operate my car, I doubt a helmet would provide any tangible safety benefit. I'd still wear it anyways because I'm just more comfortable with one now, but I doubt it'd be much of a real safety benefit.

Of course, if I operated my car on public roads like I operate my skis, I'd get arrested and hauled off to jail. I willfully take risks of far greater magnitude on skis than I (willfully and consciously) take in the car. One of the great things about skiing is that I'm allowed to do that with very little penalty, though stick-up-the-ass groups and old fogeys always want to change that.

I'm not so much worried about the risks as I am convinced that my helmet reduces the consequences of my stupidity on infrequent occassions.

At the same time, I'd also prefer more safety in my vehicles. The small inconvenience of a proper harness is absolutely worth it, as is the fit of a proper seat. Maybe its just because I'm young and realize I'm prone to stupidity, but I can't imagine driving an open car with any sort of vigor without a well designed and implemented roll bar.
post #156 of 158
The kid races and we all wear helmets. My daughter always has a spare in the closet and we replace it immediately after a fall.
post #157 of 158
On another thread I reported on the recent fatality at Sunshine:


It appears the victim was simply skiing along, lost his edge or tripped, and hit the back of his head on a (sharp) rock. He wasn't wearing a helmet. Would a helmet have saved his life? I guess we'll never know...but we do know what happened when he wasn't wearing a helmet.

I haven't posted on the helmet issue on the other thread (simply because one neverending thread on the topic is enough), but I thought it illustrated a number of points for this thread. (not skiing fast, not in a collision, not doing anything more hazardous than going down an easy black with some rocks).

I had a cousin who died because he fell backwards and hit his head on a curb while watching a parade--freakish bad luck and totally unforseeable. No one would ever suggest that he needed to wear a helmet. That isn't the case for skiers, snowboarders, and other folks who are undertaking activities with an inherent level of enhanced risk. It just makes sense to wear a helmet.
post #158 of 158
...Ability to speak and eat your own food without a straw...priceless.
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