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Helmet really necessary?

post #1 of 158
Thread Starter 
I'm recently getting back into skiing after a 5 times in 8 years hiatus.

Only the racer kids at the hill I worked at wore helmets back in those days of long straight skis...anyhow, now I see everyone's all about the helmets.

Is this just status quo, or what? I know the whole "protect your head" argument....but is everyone really wearing a helmet for everything?
post #2 of 158
brain bucket = $30

brain surgery= $150,000
post #3 of 158
It is the warmest hat you will ever wear, and if you ski the trees you will have a better appreciation for them.

I have had one on for the last 9 years and won't go back.
post #4 of 158
I wear one all the time.(disregard my TR today)

Anyways IMO my giro 9 is more comfortable and warmer than any hat i could wear, second of all it has saved my noggin many time in trees and from outta of control skiers(i instruct, green slope are teh most dangerous IMO).

I think almost everyone(maybe like 80-90percent not sure) on this board wears one, if you still decide not to wear one still i suggest you go visit your local head injury unit. See what those at once healthly normal people and there families go though, and then tell me you not willing to wear something that can at the very least lower your chances of that happening.

Josh who knows someone one younger than he, that lost nearly everything from a bike accident not wearing a helmet, yeah he is alive and smiles alot, but trust me you dont want to be him.
post #5 of 158
I was old school long enough. Still am to some degree, but I recognize when equipment is better. So I ski with high performance shaped skis, and I use a helmet. I mean, the alternatives are pretty low tech....we got beanies, skull caps, ball caps, naked ears and wild snowy hair... Does anyone still wear those head bands or ear muffs? Oh yeah, and dread locks, jester hats...
post #6 of 158
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post #7 of 158
I went to a helmet solely because I bought one when I went to a summer race camp and they required it. Then I had this $200 helmet around (had a heck of a time finding one in the summer, I took what I found instead of bargain hunting) so I had to use it. But frankly, if a nice spring skiing day came along with bright blue skies, I'd shuck the thing for a few runs.
post #8 of 158
From the various debates on Epicski, mainstream ski magazine literature, and some geek reading I did on my own, I'd say the jury is still out as to the level of protection a helmet provides. I've heard effective ceiling estimates as low as 15 m.p.h., which I'm willing to bet some of us average on the way into the liftline.

That being said, I haven't been without a helmet in almost 5 years. It's warmer than a hat, more convenient (for me at least), and it's doing more good than harm. What the heck, it's even got headphones! (Ok, the headphones might be more harmful... ).

As someone stated earlier, instructors spend a lot of time in the kill zone (beginner trails), so anything that provides more protection than a beanie is fine by me. Sometimes I think I've got a bullseye on my back! What the heck, it's even got headphones! (Ok, the headphones might be more harmful... ). It's gotten to the point now where my helmet is like my seatbelt -- I feel naked without it.
post #9 of 158
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
I wear one all the time.(disregard my TR today)

Anyways IMO my giro 9 is more comfortable and warmer than any hat i could wear, second of all it has saved my noggin many time in trees and from outta of control skiers(i instruct, green slope are teh most dangerous IMO).

I think almost everyone(maybe like 80-90percent not sure) on this board wears one, if you still decide not to wear one still i suggest you go visit your local head injury unit. See what those at once healthly normal people and there families go though, and then tell me you not willing to wear something that can at the very least lower your chances of that happening.

Josh who knows someone one younger than he, that lost nearly everything from a bike accident not wearing a helmet, yeah he is alive and smiles alot, but trust me you dont want to be him.
Hmmm....well I spent almost three years out of the last four as a care giver for a man who suffered a traumatic brain injury (TBI) while skiing. I am intimately aware of the effects of such injuries, having taken a painfully long and information packed class on TBIs, and due to my training, I know that the overwhelming majority of them are suffered in car accidents. I wonder how many of the safety conscious skiers wear their helmets as they drive home.

I don't wear a helmet. My head gets hot in just a thin acryllic hat. If I let fear of potential injury rule my life I'd never leave the house. I ski to feel free and unconfined, a helmet wouldn't help that pursuit.
post #10 of 158
went to killington a few yrs ago and by the fouth day "thursday" poeple were sailing balls to the wall off the drop offs with no reguard for anyone below .The next day we went to pico and bought helmets.Started out just wearing on weekends now wear all the time.Also wear one when we mountain bike...make kids wear them on snowboards "16 & 20" ...oldest thought it would be fun to hit a table top from top of trail yongest says he cleared landing by about 30 40 ft and landed on back then head...had helmet on and only got a concussion.
post #11 of 158
The Kennedy kid and Sonny Bono would weigh in on this if they could.
post #12 of 158
Never wore a helmet until last season, I ski the trees a lot and sometimes fairly fast. The new helmets like a Giro Fuse or such are so light, its like wearing a hat anyway.

Cirquerider brought up some good points too.
post #13 of 158
Flip-Flop, After ten years of wearing a helmet, I gave it up last year. Just got tired of feeling claustrphobic. Especially on warm Spring days.
post #14 of 158
When I'm teaching in the kill zone (beginner and intermediate runs) and skiing fast, yes, I wear a helmet. But on warm days, when the trails aren't too crazy, and I'm just cruisin', then, maybe not.
post #15 of 158
I mountain bike, I wear a helmet;
I ride a Harley, I wear a helmet;
I drive a car, I wear a seatbelt; and

I ski and I wear a helmet. My personal choice and it has saved me from errant poles in the head and branches in the woods.

It's all about taking reasonable steps to protect yourself.
I have 2 skis helmets: a thicker full coverage for cold; and a lighter one for spring.

In the end, like most choices, it's a personal one. There is no right or wrong answer!
post #16 of 158
I raced for many years where I'd only wear a helmet during races because it was required. Imagine how many training runs at full clip on boilerplate we're talking about without a helmet ... and how many hard falls I had in that time ... full egg-beaters even.

I still have buddies that don't wear helmets, but now I wear one all the time. I even feel naked without it. I can't explain the shift in mentality other than helmets have come a long way ... and I have kids that I expect to wear helmets too. I wouldn't consider cycling without one ... and we're moving a LOT faster on skis.

The only time it's ever an issue is on those really warm spring days when anything on your head is too hot. But, the Giro Fuse/9 can be set up to vent fairly well. If it's so hot that I can't ski with a helmet then the skiing probably isn't too good anyway.
post #17 of 158
I wear one every day. Even on the warm spring days where I'm "just cruising". IMO no matter how few people are on the slopes all it takes is one person to ram you. On warm days I keep the vents open and get rid of the ear covers. A helmet is like any other safety device: you may never need it, but if you ever do you'll be glad you have it.
post #18 of 158
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Originally Posted by xdog1
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Take it to TGR, tool.
post #19 of 158
I don't wear one for the stupid reason that I'm from the generation that associated helmets only to be worn by racers. I admit the logic in this is entirely lacking. Why can't a helmet de produced that would provide more protection at higher collison speeds? I have to think there are engineered plastics available that would allow for more head protection in higher speed incidences? What am I overlooking and not understanding with the 15 mph protection limit? And no doubt this level of protection is better than no protection.
post #20 of 158
U Only get one brain dude - better protect it ! ; )
post #21 of 158
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Originally Posted by Jed Peters
Take it to TGR, tool.
To be fair we go through this stupid dance about 10 times a season.

It gets old very quickly.

Either buy one or don't.

It's your noggin.
post #22 of 158
I started wearing the helmet for protection. I continue to wear it for comfort. It's warm and it doesn't itch. We ski Big Sky. You see sharp rocks the size of golf balls on the slopes the day after it snows! A simple fall at the wrong time and one of those little rocks will cause you a lot of trouble. It will not prevent all head or neck injuries but since it's comfortable and might help, why not wear it. BTW I make this same argument to the ladies in my family every year and they still refuse to wear a helmet becasue they think it's a teenage racer thing.
post #23 of 158
Extra protection intuitively makes sense. The thing to always remember, though, is that just because you are wearing safety gear doesn't mean that you are "more skilled" or should take bigger chances. Being a 40+ years motorcycle rider, I have seen countless injured and dead folks who thought wearing a helmet made thinking optional.
post #24 of 158
Don't wear a helmet.
Darwinism will prevail if you haven't bred yet.
post #25 of 158
[quote=roundturns].....Why can't a helmet de produced that would provide more protection at higher collison speeds? I have to think there are engineered plastics available that would allow for more head protection in higher speed incidences? What am I overlooking and not understanding with the 15 mph protection limit? And no doubt this level of protection is better than no protection.[/QUOTE]

It is not a helmet. Helmet (at least a good one) will not crack up to maybe 50-60MPH. It is your head inside the helmet and you brain inside your head who can not take a momentary impact caused by a sudden stop caused by a tree when your helmet with your head inside it was moving with a speed faster than 15MPH .

I do wear one, and I do wear it for comfort mostly (as many above said it is more comfortable than a hat), however it saved me a lot of times not from brain surgery but from those annoying hits by little rocks, small branches, poles of green killers, little ise balls ect.....

Cheers.
post #26 of 158
[quote=cfr]
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Originally Posted by roundturns
I do wear one, and I do wear it for comfort mostly (as many above said it is more comfortable than a hat), however it saved me a lot of times not from brain surgery but from those annoying hits by little rocks, small branches, poles of green killers, little ise balls ect.....
Don't forget the safety bar nazis who yank the bar down before everyone is even seated.
post #27 of 158
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Originally Posted by Birdman829
I wear one every day. Even on the warm spring days where I'm "just cruising". IMO no matter how few people are on the slopes all it takes is one person to ram you. On warm days I keep the vents open and get rid of the ear covers. A helmet is like any other safety device: you may never need it, but if you ever do you'll be glad you have it.
One of my worst crashes ever ocurred while I was "just crusing". I was coming to trail merge and a snowboarder blindsided me as he shot out of the trees. We hit head to head. Both of us were wearing helmets. Very scary moment nonetheless. I haven't skied without a helmet since.

-T
post #28 of 158
[quote=Scalce]
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Originally Posted by cfr

Don't forget the safety bar nazis who yank the bar down before everyone is even seated.
Oh yeah! At least once a day : .....

Cheers.
post #29 of 158
I knew I was missing the obvious, thanks for the explanation. There is no doubt that wearing a helmet is prudent and provides a level of protection that could be life saving.Slopes are crowded, and its foolish to depend on the other person being in control . I think I really need to change my ancient mindset this season. Plus its more gear I can buy and upgrade every year!
post #30 of 158
"I ski to feel free and unconfined, a helmet wouldn't help that pursuit."

and here i thought it was The Man keepin' me down.
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