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Volkl SS Gamma vs. 6star for the girlfriend – HELP!

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ok – I’m making the sacrifice and I am now looking to get new sticks for my girlfriend for the upcoming year – instead of for myself! I figured I have a invested in a long term relationship I may as well invest in something that we can do together for quite some time. We would be skiing mostly in the East. Her stats:

Height: just under 5’ 4”
Weight: 112-120
Skier type: Aggressive Intermediate – still learning how to link good carved turns, groomed runs, she skis fast and aggressive (scares me sometimes) – despite her small frame she is strong and athletic

Question:

I have a beat on some SuperSport Gammas in 154 for her however have found someone looking to get rid of last year’s 6* in 154. Any females out there who have been on both, or who have been on the 6* specifically? I know there is a difference in weight and mounting point – will that difference make or break (or hinder) her steady improvement from intermediate to advanced? Will there be a big benefit for her to get on the gammas as opposed to the 6*? Any help is greatly appreciated – Thanks!
post #2 of 14
My wife actually skied on both the Gamma and the 6* this last ski season in Park City and greatly preferred the Gamma. My wife is 6' tall and slightly heavier than your girlfriend, but she still had a very difficult time flexing the 6*. I would personally recommend the Gamma based on my wife's experience, plus the Gamma will be more forgiving of occasional bad technique than the 6* (which I own).
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Originally Posted by Sphinx15
I have a beat on some SuperSport Gammas in 154 for her however have found someone looking to get rid of last year’s 6* in 154. Any females out there who have been on both, or who have been on the 6* specifically? I know there is a difference in weight and mounting point – will that difference make or break (or hinder) her steady improvement from intermediate to advanced? Will there be a big benefit for her to get on the gammas as opposed to the 6*? Any help is greatly appreciated – Thanks!
my lady friends of same ability or better rave about the k2 burnin luv, hard to find but currently avail here in RI I posted on it's avail Saturday....or they are looking at the volkl attiva 5 star...the burnin luv are flat out gorgeous too, IMHO

the gamma ss I also heard was a great ski and at the right price a good snag I would think....IMO the 6 star would be a bear for her....I would stay away from it.....the ladies I know who tried it got chewed up on it...but others will chime in and may disagree with me....

smittys in west warwick, ri has a pair of leftover gamma ss cheap...I think they were 154....he also had 3 pair of burnin luv....www.smittysri.com
post #4 of 14
I ski on the 6* in 161. It's the stiffest, fastest ski I've ever tried, and I wouldn't trade it for the world! That being said, I don't know that I'd recommend it for someone who is an intermediate skier looking to advance. It's very unforgiving...it takes whatever "hint" you give it, and throws 100% into it. Which makes it a blast to ski, but you can't get lazy on it. Hope this helps...
post #5 of 14
I agree with the feedback above. The Six Star is not a ski for a lightweight intermediate skier. I let an intermediate friend try mine this past winter, and thought he was going to kill himself with the body slam he did. I didn't appreciate how demanding the ski could be until I saw a less experienced skier give it a go. Even with my weight, I have to build some speed to bend the ski into a nice arc. I was skiing with someone else using B5 Metrons and they could at slow speed just arc into the nicest carved turn, while I took twice the radius and needed more speed to get the manuver.

Gamma should be much more appropriate, and the women I have talked to on the ski gave it great feedback.
post #6 of 14

Gammas

My wife is 5'5", 120, advancing intermediate who enjoys groomed blacks, & loves her Gammas at 154. Your GF won't outgrow the Gammas. The 6* is stiff for someone that size.

Since your GF is 5'3", if you find a deal on the 380 Gammas in 149, they would also work (my wife would have chosen them if we didn't get a deal on the Gammas). The 380 Gammas are pretty close to the SS Gammas - same wood core, different graphics, different lengths available.
post #7 of 14
Hey everyone,

This is Rob from Smitty's. I was checking the access logs for our website and I noticed I was getting some traffic from this forum so I thought I'd check it out. Thanks for the shout out hrstrat57.

I think I spoke to Sphinx15 on the phone a while ago, but in case anyone else is looking for these skis, we do both the '04-05 Supersport Gammas (aka the Pink Star) and the '05-'06 Burnin' Luvs.

Tons of good insight from everyone who posted so far. I agree with everyone who spoke up on the 6 Star: great ski, but very stiff and demanding....not a good buy in this case. The Pink Star is a great ski for an advanced intermediate or a conservative expert lady skier. As Dino mentioned, the 380 gamma is also worth a look, because it's less expensive and in the same ballpark. The Burnin' Luv is also a hot seller, not only because of it's great shelf appeal, but also because of it's versatility. We have put advanced intermediate to true expert ladies skier on them and have heard nothing but rave reviews. However, it is considerably more expensive and I highly doubt you'll find any leftover models.

Anyway, I hope this info helps and good luck in your search.

Rob
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by rob@smittys
Hey everyone,

This is Rob from Smitty's. I was checking the access logs for our website and I noticed I was getting some traffic from this forum so I thought I'd check it out. Thanks for the shout out hrstrat57.

Rob
No worries Rob it's a no brainer... Kevin Smith(owner of Smitty's get it?) is one of the finest people I have ever met in the business. Period. Rob can flat out fit boots with the best of em and really knows his gear. I hope he chimes in on regular basis we will all be better off if he does. Smitty's is just a great old school ski shop.....the kind we all used to know and love. I doubt Kevin will tell about his secret wax tho BTW if you can't rip it up on the hill Kevin won't hire you.....these guys walk the talk believe me. I have bought multiple pairs of boards from these guys without a demo, with no worries. On slope performance was spot on as described. I can't recommend them enough. Just tell em what I want and they deliver.

Welcome to epic ski Rob!

post #9 of 14
I would have to agree with all of the above. I ahve skied the 6* and find them stiff and responsive--an excellent ski, but not really that suitable for a light weight intermediate. My daughter skis the SS gamma and finds them very capable and appropriate to her advancing intermediate ability. The SS gamma is essentially a repackaged 4* (same dimensions, same softer flex), which has been highly reccomended for intermediate male skiers.

Judging from her weight and her described ability, the gamma sounds great.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by hrstrat57
No worries Rob it's a no brainer... Kevin Smith(owner of Smitty's get it?) is one of the finest people I have ever met in the business. Period. Rob can flat out fit boots with the best of em and really knows his gear. I hope he chimes in on regular basis we will all be better off if he does. Smitty's is just a great old school ski shop.....the kind we all used to know and love. I doubt Kevin will tell about his secret wax tho BTW if you can't rip it up on the hill Kevin won't hire you.....these guys walk the talk believe me. I have bought multiple pairs of boards from these guys without a demo, with no worries. On slope performance was spot on as described. I can't recommend them enough. Just tell em what I want and they deliver.

Welcome to epic ski Rob!

Thanks for the nice words. It means a lot to all of us at the shop when we hear that sort of stuff.

As for product info...there's a lot of great product on the market and there's tons of information to sift through. Kevin, Dennis, and I have skied on most of the higher end 2005-2006 products from Volkl, K2, Salomon, Head, and Tecnica, so we can break things down fairly easily when it comes to construction and product comparison. I'll continue to pop by this forum from time to time and answer any questions that are sent my way. As the shop gets busier I won't have as much time to surf the net, so feel free to give me a call or shoot me an email directly if anyone has specific questions.

I hope to see some of you on the hill this season. There's already snow on the ground, so it won't be long before the lifts are turning.

Take care,
Rob

P.S. Kevin can wax with whatever he wants...I'll still beat him to the bottom on a set of rentals
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the help everyone – and yes Rob I did speak to you yesterday, thanks for the help and I will definitely stop in the shop if I am down that way. I went with the SS Gamma in 154 – slightly used for a great price – I want to keep this as a surprise for her but I don’t think I can hold out until the snow covers the mountains here in the East, not to mention the only real hiding place I have is in my double ski bag and even that is a stretch. Anyway, this place is a wealth of information – thanks again.
post #12 of 14
can't recommend the 6* for anyone who is not super solid on unforgiving expert skis. get her the gamma. she'll love them and thank you no doubt .
post #13 of 14
If your gonna make a sacrifice...

get the 6 star for yourself...sacrifice the girlfriend, and get a pair of mantra's for yourself too!
post #14 of 14
spinx15,
good advice above, the 6* is a expert ski and an intermediate to advanced skier will have a hard time on it.
The best bet is to have your gf demo some skis and let her decide what she likes. It is better to pay a little more if the skis she likes are not a "deal", than get her something she doesn't like.

RW
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