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post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Almost give up the Salomon. Want to try Atomic Skis. Please give some recommendation on choosing the skis and the price. Appreciate for the help.

Female, 25, 5'4"(164cm), 120 lb. beginner. Most in Northeast icy skis resorts.

Here are some Atomic binding I am thinking of. Also the price i can find.
1. Atomic C:9/Device 310 150cm $315 very classical
2. Atomic C:8/Device 310 160cm $250
3. Atomic B:11/ Device 259 158cm $330 B are designed for women.
4. Atomic B:9/Device 259 158cm $290

One general quesion for the Atomic. B/C/M + number. What is the meaning of the number? Ski Level?

Appreciate.
Best Regards
post #2 of 29
Just out of curiocity, why Atomic? Why not Rossi, Head or any other brand? Did you own Salomons and had a pair that you didn't like? Past that need soem more info in your decision like where will you be skiing, how much, what are your asperations in improving, how long do you plan on keeping the ski. Have you, would you, could you demo?
post #3 of 29
In your case I would go for the B11. Its made for women so you should buy it. If you dont they will stop making gear for women and you will have to settle for male and unisex models Anyway, I bought my wife a pair of racing skis but she would have been better off with a pair of B11's (could not find a good bargain last year). I dont think you have to look any further, Atomics make great skis.
post #4 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Just out of curiocity, why Atomic? Why not Rossi, Head or any other brand? Did you own Salomons and had a pair that you didn't like? Past that need soem more info in your decision like where will you be skiing, how much, what are your asperations in improving, how long do you plan on keeping the ski. Have you, would you, could you demo?
Thanks Phil, No special reason for Atomic. Just want to try. Never used Atomic before. She tried Rossi, felt soft. I had not happy experience with Salomon so far.


She will ski most in Northeast part, more like icy condition. She will ski for long term but only will never go to some too hard way, like big jump.

Unfortunately she can't demo
post #5 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdk6
In your case I would go for the B11. Its made for women so you should buy it. If you dont they will stop making gear for women and you will have to settle for male and unisex models Anyway, I bought my wife a pair of racing skis but she would have been better off with a pair of B11's (could not find a good bargain last year). I dont think you have to look any further, Atomics make great skis.
Thanks tdk6
B serial are all made for women. I don't know what is the meaning of the number there, like 7, 9, 11.
post #6 of 29
Well if edge grip is what you are looking for, I would look at Volkl, Stockli or Nordica!
post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skifordad
Well if edge grip is what you are looking for, I would look at Volkl, Stockli or Nordica!
Why not Volkl? Since I am using Volkl. She just wanna try some different.
Also, Atomic is comparatively cheaper.

Stockli and Nordica is not as many as Atomic on sale.
post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by skifordad
Well if edge grip is what you are looking for, I would look at Volkl, Stockli or Nordica!
Are you saying that Atomic are poor where edge grip is concerned? The World Cup would beg to differ...
post #9 of 29
Thread Starter 
Ladies and Gentlemen

Please help me and give some comments
post #10 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by skifordad
Well if edge grip is what you are looking for, I would look at Volkl, Stockli or Nordica!
Atomics have significantly better grip than Volkls, in my experience.
post #11 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublediamond223
Atomics have significantly better grip than Volkls, in my experience.
Skidad pimps Volkls at every possible opportunity. All it takes is a glance at the podiums at World Cup and Olympic events to see which Ski manufacturers have their acts together.
post #12 of 29
The C9W (women's model) would be a good choice. As well as the B11, B9 or B7. Those are all "women's specific".

If she's into speed and skiing fall line, maybe the LT:11 or ST:11 which are a "softer" racing ski.

Maybe the new Izors, the 7.5, perhaps.

Lot's of choices there.
post #13 of 29
Thread Starter 
Atomic_918, looks you are Atomic fans? I mean from your nice name. hehe
Do you know what is the difference among 11, 9, and 7?
post #14 of 29
Please re-read the orignal post folks. The ski is for a beginner. Edge hold is a non-issue.

For a lighter, beginning skier, I would recommend a softer ski from a French manufacturer.

Dynastar, Salomon, Rossignol all make skis that would suit your purpose.

For Atomic, have you tried going to their web-site and used their ski-finder?
post #15 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by weirei
Atomic_918, looks you are Atomic fans? I mean from your nice name. hehe
Do you know what is the difference among 11, 9, and 7?

Typically, and with Atomic particularly, the larger the number denotes a stiffer, more aggressive ski where carving, on-piste skis are concerned.
post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by weirei
Almost give up the Salomon. Want to try Atomic Skis. Please give some recommendation on choosing the skis and the price. Appreciate for the help.

Female, 25, 5'4"(164cm), 120 lb. beginner. Most in Northeast icy skis resorts.

Here are some Atomic binding I am thinking of. Also the price i can find.
1. Atomic C:9/Device 310 150cm $315 very classical
2. Atomic C:8/Device 310 160cm $250
3. Atomic B:11/ Device 259 158cm $330 B are designed for women.
4. Atomic B:9/Device 259 158cm $290

One general quesion for the Atomic. B/C/M + number. What is the meaning of the number? Ski Level?

Appreciate.

Best Regards
The B/C/M denotes the line of the Ski, where B = Balanze (female specific), C = Carve (on piste, unisex) and M is the Metron line (unisex, all mountain). And yes, the higher the number, the higher the ski's 'level' where Atomic skis are concerned.

For a beginner, both the C:8 and the B:9 would be fine. At your wife's weight and ability level, maybe something a bit shorter than the 158s and 160s listed. That depends on her natural athletic ability though. Some folks are just more athletically inclined and pick the sport up easier.
post #17 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
Please re-read the orignal post folks. The ski is for a beginner. Edge hold is a non-issue.

For a lighter, beginning skier, I would recommend a softer ski from a French manufacturer.

Dynastar, Salomon, Rossignol all make skis that would suit your purpose.

For Atomic, have you tried going to their web-site and used their ski-finder?
Personally, I don't see a problem putting a "beginner" on a C9/C9W. Its a ski that will stay with her for a long time and will allow her technique to progress.
post #18 of 29
But, you also mentioned the softer racing skis, LT-11 and ST-11 which would be very inappropriate.... and B11.

The C-series would be fine. IIRC, equivalents from last year are Dynastar 08, Head 160.
post #19 of 29
B for Balance, lighter, softer, turnier and prittier. The 11 has a better shape than the lower numbered ones and it features some better materials. Go short however, not over 150.

I was also going to comment on the level of skier we are talking about so wake up and stop suggesting different brands with "better" edgehold... There are few skis around with as much natural edgehold as an Atomic out of the box.
post #20 of 29
I'm thinking B11 would be good for high intermediate or advanced skier,
B3 or B7 for beginner, B9 lower to middle intermediate.
post #21 of 29
The B11 in the 158 would be a very good ski for her. I assume the price is due to it being an 04-05 ski and therefore not part of the metron series. If it has the tighter turn radius (12m give or take) of a metron series than it is a 05-06 and an awesome deal but she may want to go smaller than that.

The other skis would be fine too but the B series have a little more up to date shape and performance from that list.

Atomic all natural edge hold and ingredients. No unnatural petroleum products were harmed in the making of these skis.
post #22 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone. The information is really helpful.
post #23 of 29
weirei:

With due respect to the other posters, I doubt that a race ski of any description is the ideal set up for a beginner skier. The notions of speed, maximum edge grip, high end skis, and all that are largely irrelevant to a 120 lb beginner.

I am a retailer with 35 yrs experience in various facets of the ski industry. Of the models you mentioned, I think the B-9 (ladies C-9) would be a fine choice. The B-11 while very good, is quite stiff and has possibly a bit more shape that you would need in developing your skills.

Hope this helps.

SJ
post #24 of 29
How about the e3? It's last year's model but the atomic reps think very highly of it for women. We sell it at the sports authority. I sent you a pm with more info.

The C9 is also and excellent ski and that is what I ski on.
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by Atomic_918
The C9W (women's model) would be a good choice. As well as the B11, B9 or B7. Those are all "women's specific".

If she's into speed and skiing fall line, maybe the LT:11 or ST:11 which are a "softer" racing ski.

Maybe the new Izors, the 7.5, perhaps.

Lot's of choices there.
I demoed the lt:11 and didn't think it was a soft ski by any margins. It was a great ski and I flew on it and all but it is certainly different from the softer skis that she as mentioned. I ski on a C9 and they are like 10,000 times softer then the lt:11. There is no way I'd recommend lt:11 for a beginner.
post #26 of 29
I would also add the Volant Vertex Silver to the list. A peranial "high marks" ski for women. It is a great easters ski that will grow with her and also be a versitile ski that will give her great edge hold. Plus it is in the "Atomic" family.
post #27 of 29
The K2 Burning Luv.
post #28 of 29
good choice wear the fox hat
post #29 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by SierraJim
weirei:


The B-11 while very good, is quite stiff and has possibly a bit more shape that you would need in developing your skills.

Hope this helps.

SJ
In my post I mention an assumption that she is talking about last year's skis judging from the prices in which case the Balanz didn't have that much shape as opposed to this year's Metron 9 like version of the B11. Not sure that is the case but seems likely. The Balanz did come in an 11 last year as well didn't it? Or is last year's also quite stiff? Maybe I only saw the 9 around here.
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