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Need ski buying advice - Scratch BC, B3, Dynastar Legend 8800, other??

post #1 of 14
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Howdy, I need a little help narrowing the field of potential skis to buy, I currently live out east and have my whole life, will finally be making the trek out west and will be spending the winter in whister with some friends. My current skis are head cyber x60's, 170's, sidecut 112-64-95.. probably not the best ski for whistler.. I'm 6', 155-160 pounds, I'm a confident and fairly aggressive/capable skier (by east coast standards anyways), I generally spend as little time as possible on groomers,I figure I'll be doing the same out west and will find myself most of the time in bumps, steeps, chop, crud, glades, and hopefully powder. I'd like a ski that can handle all off the above with ease, and that can hopefully still be fun on groomers and be able to catch an edge on ice Also I don't spend anytime in pipes, on rails, taking jumps or jumping off cliffs.. just not my thing.

Sooo, what I've been reading up on so far are Rossignol Scratch BC's (2004 or 2005, not this years), 2006 Bandit B3's, and Dynastar 8800's.. would you reccomend any of these skis for me, or reccomend against? if so, please elaborate why, and are there any other skis I should consider? What would be a good length? When I get out there I'm hoping to rent/demo a couple pairs before making any decisions but I'd like to get my list down to two if possible so any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys!
post #2 of 14
Worth consideration...

Metron B5, Head IM77, Metron MX, Head IM88
post #3 of 14
Another ski you should consider is the Salomon 1080 Foil which is perfect for the type of skiing you will be doing.

I was looking in very similar type of ski as you are now and bought the Foils. Tried them out a week ago and couldn't be happier with it's performance off-piste as well as on-piste.

The ski is all fun FUN FUN!
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by kpudgar
Another ski you should consider is the Salomon 1080 Foil which is perfect for the type of skiing you will be doing.

I was looking in very similar type of ski as you are now and bought the Foils. Tried them out a week ago and couldn't be happier with it's performance off-piste as well as on-piste.

The ski is all fun FUN FUN!
did you demo any of the skis i mentionned? a salesperson at one store who really reccomended last years scratch bc's (that he didn't even have to sell me) told me his favorite ski was the 1080 but he said it was more of a freestyle ski than freeride ski and that i'd probably be better off with a scratch bc. ill check it out though.. i called around in whistler and half the people reccomended the rossignol b3 and said the b4 was probably too fat for me, the other half reccomended the b4 and said the b3 was probably not fat enough.. bizarre..
post #5 of 14
The Scratch BC are pretty soft skis as I recall but I've never gotten out on them. I did see a lot of the Whistler locals on them during my trip there last year, so that should mean something.

I'm nearly exactly your height, weight, and skier type and I loved the Dynastar 8800s @ 168. I would have liked to try the 178, but the 168 had plenty of float for me. I skied them everywhere too, groomed, bumps, powder, crud, trees, and they never let me down. You should definitely demo a pair.

Whistler has a million and one places to demo nearly every ski you could think of too, so you will have no problems getting out on the top contenders.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by onyxjl
The Scratch BC are pretty soft skis as I recall but I've never gotten out on them. I did see a lot of the Whistler locals on them during my trip there last year, so that should mean something.

I'm nearly exactly your height, weight, and skier type and I loved the Dynastar 8800s @ 168. I would have liked to try the 178, but the 168 had plenty of float for me. I skied them everywhere too, groomed, bumps, powder, crud, trees, and they never let me down. You should definitely demo a pair.

Whistler has a million and one places to demo nearly every ski you could think of too, so you will have no problems getting out on the top contenders.
well one of my friends has a pair of 2004 176 scratch bc's with rossignol axial 140 wide brake bindings that he skiied ten times last year that he's willing to sell me for $300 US, thats around $350 cdn.. nothing wrong with them he's a snowboarder who thought he'd try skiing again.. even with the whistler 20% employee discount a new pair of b3's w/ axial 120's, or dynastar 8800's with bindings would cost $1000 after taxes.. i don't know how much better any of those skis might be over the scratch (for what im doing), but if its marginal i'll definitely be going with the scratch's
post #7 of 14
stebed:

A one ski quiver for whistler for a light skier. Hmmmm......

The 90 mm skis are great when the snow is soft and deep but the early season at W/B can sometimes be wet with quite a bit of hard snow and slop at other times. The best set up might be an Atomic M-Ex in 175. This is a wide mid fat with a dual reputation as a crud buster and big turn groomer zoomer.

There are some deals out there on the '04-'05 models.

SJ
post #8 of 14
I prefer the 8800 to the B3- I just like the feel of a wood core better. Both get the job done. I've not tried it, but seen a surprising number of Wasatch locals on the Scratch BC as an all-mountain ski, even tele. It's loved here. It's got a wood core and is plenty beefy for crud, I'm told- Wasatch crud, anyway,which may differ frm PNW crud...
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab
I prefer the 8800 to the B3- I just like the feel of a wood core better. Both get the job done. I've not tried it, but seen a surprising number of Wasatch locals on the Scratch BC as an all-mountain ski, even tele. It's loved here. It's got a wood core and is plenty beefy for crud, I'm told- Wasatch crud, anyway,which may differ frm PNW crud...
the new b3 or last years b3 (which is this years b4)? ill probably just end up with the scratch bc's since it'll cost three times less than anything else..
post #10 of 14
Go for it Spongebob, me boy!- like I said, it's a locals favorite here as an all-mountain,the size is right, and the PRICE is right! And foam cores suck!- Mr. Crab
post #11 of 14
A good ski you can save a ton of money on is better than a slightly better ski you can't afford to buy.

Sounds like there isn't much of a decision here.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by onyxjl
A good ski you can save a ton of money on is better than a slightly better ski you can't afford to buy.

Sounds like there isn't much of a decision here.
well he wasn't selling them when i started the thread but i mean i can afford a new pair of skis and bindings, its been five years since i bought a pair, i really don't mind, but if these other skis are only marginally better (if that) it would seem a little silly to spend three times more on them.. i'll wait for free demo days and try out all the skis you guys listed, maybe one will blow me away
post #13 of 14
Avoid the 1080/Foil, there is too much heavy snow at Whistler and it will get kicked around too much in those conditions at speed. I have the 8800 and it's a great all around ski, I'd recommend it, I'm 5'10 200lbs and ski the 188. Try to demo if you can, the ski is mounted pretty far up by default and I think you could handle the 188, the increased stability will help, but really demo the 178 and 188 if you are interested in that ski.

Not sure on the Scratch, I know this years is moderately stiff/damp. What about Volkl? Haven't ridden it yet but from what I've seen the Mantra is supposed to be a great every-day Whistler ski. Also consider Head IM88, K2 Seth Vicious. Avoid the Metron line if you aren't skiing groomers.
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by gramboh
Avoid the 1080/Foil, there is too much heavy snow at Whistler and it will get kicked around too much in those conditions at speed. I have the 8800 and it's a great all around ski, I'd recommend it, I'm 5'10 200lbs and ski the 188. Try to demo if you can, the ski is mounted pretty far up by default and I think you could handle the 188, the increased stability will help, but really demo the 178 and 188 if you are interested in that ski.

Not sure on the Scratch, I know this years is moderately stiff/damp. What about Volkl? Haven't ridden it yet but from what I've seen the Mantra is supposed to be a great every-day Whistler ski. Also consider Head IM88, K2 Seth Vicious. Avoid the Metron line if you aren't skiing groomers.
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