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Need tips on how to identify counterfeit skis

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
How does one assure oneself that skis purchased on Ebay are the real thing? (Let's not get into "this is why you buy locally", please). I bought some skis from Ebay that look like the pictures on the K2 site, but I just looked at the seller's ID on Ebay and he is suddenly getting a lot of complaints. They are all about non-delivery, though, not the skis themselves. Up until now, the guy had 100% happy buyers. Ebay won't tell me what is going on.
post #2 of 15
The ptex is on backwards??

The logo says K3??

I doubt there is much "counterfeit" equipment out there---just too 'spensive to make is my guess.

Stolen or otherwise ill-gotten would seem way more likely.
post #3 of 15
Ask for closeups on top of today's newspaper? Run from the Western Union logo?

skier_j, I think she's askin about auctions for images.
post #4 of 15
Defective, Stolen or Counterfeit. Most K2 skis are still Made in China.
post #5 of 15
I don't think there are counterfit skis, too expensive to make. The risk is that you might get factory rejects or mismatched pairs. Buy from people with highfeedback/brick & mortar stores behind them.
post #6 of 15
I haven't heard about people selling flat-out conterfeit skis.

There are some instances (I don't think very common) of people misidentifying the model or year of skis their selling. I'm guessing most of this is confusion on the part of the sellers, rather than intentional fraud.

On eBay, if a listing isn't real clear (or maybe even if it is), ask the seller questions. "Is the photo in the listing the actual item for sale?" is a good one. If you're armed with a reasonably clear photo and a modicum of knowledge on your own part, you can probably figure out what's what.
post #7 of 15
Did you ever get your skis? Maybe the seller is having financial problems.

I doubt that you'll find counterfeits. I've seen some new prior years models on ebay, where based on the cosmetics, they weren't from the model year claimed in the listing. The main thing I've seen are extreme sizes - either the shortest, or the longest, which weren't big sellers, but also may be hard to find elsewhere.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
I have the skis, got them weeks ago. They LOOK LIKE the pictures that K2 has on its site for 2006 -- I compared SKI mag photos for 2005 and 2006 to be even more sure. I've finally found a serial number (not for those of us with old eyes!). They are matching serial numbers. I've just got the wind up because the seller has apparently stopped delivering his product to the last six or seven buyers.
post #9 of 15
most US retailers are not supposed to sell current year product on ebay. Maybe that is the reason he stoped shipping!
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by skifordad
most US retailers are not supposed to sell current year product on ebay. Maybe that is the reason he stoped shipping!
Interesting... skiershop.com has been selling current season gear. In fact, their eBay prices are sometimes cheaper than what they advertise on their own web site.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by sibhusky
I've finally found a serial number (not for those of us with old eyes!). They are matching serial numbers.
This is just a shot in the dark and some trouble to go to, but you could ask the seller for the serial numbers in advance of the sale, call or e-mail the US reps of the ski manufacture and ask if the number conforms to the skis they sold in the North American market. While I would think the manufacture probably couldn't track which retailer was sold the ski (or at least they wouldn't go to that trouble for you), you'd think at least they could tell generally in which geographic market it was sold...or if the # was bogus. Perhaps some of the ski reps that sometime visit this site could comment on whether this approach is doable.
post #12 of 15
Best way to identify counterfeit equipment of any kind (skis, watches, pocketbooks, DVD) is to call the manufacturer of the item and ask if they have any kind of corporate security person you can speak to. Tell them you think you might have a counterfeit copy of one of their products.

If there is are any counterfeit skis anywhere, they'll already know about it and will probably be glad to tell you how to identify a counterfeit. I also doubt there are any such things out there, however.

I know that the manufacturers of some upper end clothing, etc are very tenacious about going after counterfeiters. I've had some dealings with these people myself (on the honest end). Rolex will send out a rep 24/7/365 to almost anywhere if there is a possibly legitimate report of even one counterfeit Rolex on display somewhere. They even have a very nice detailed brochure available for identifying counterfeit watches.

Its a pretty serious crime in most places. Coach and other handbag companies are pretty aggressive in chasing down counterfeits. But there are tons of fake Coach bags out there because they're cheap to produce. Hey, even my wife has one! : (My son bought it for her as a gift at a flea market out of his hard earned money - whatta you gonna do?).
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Frankly, if I got a "Coach" bag for counterfeit pricing, it'd probably be worth it. I mean, they are leather and as long as the stitching is good, I'd keep it. But a ski is a bit more difficult to assess whether you care if it is a knock-off, gray market, etc.

It sounds like I probably have "real" skis, although maybe not through approved sourcing. As long as there are no warranty issues coming up, I guess I'll be happy. Frankly, I can't afford the potential downside of this (if I could, I'd have bought locally-->irony). So for now, I am just keeping my fingers crossed. After all, maybe they are just bought on pro-forms and the guy's brother got in trouble when they appeared on Ebay.

Then again, his last name was Chinese, so maybe they are from the backdoor of the factory.
post #14 of 15
They are usually mounted with Marker bindings.



editSorry..I thought you meant counterfeit skiers
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
No, I intentionally bought them flat because of the cost issue.
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