Well, now I should be able to pontificate from here. I spent some time with the Amish, riding a bus with them from Cal back east. I was reading John Muir which was frowned on. There's only one place I have ever seen a sleigh on the road and that was in Ohio. I figure that it must have been an Amish family. Just think, no gasoline, no plows, and no salt. I don't like the feel of plastic bags, either. Just think, no need to convert petroleum to plastic with leather. hmmm, no petroleum and no need for a military presence in Iraq, either. Now, as I just posted on another thread a longer ski has an advantage in jumping. I find that they hold ice better in my Alpine skiing. Now, I'm thinking about taking my mom's skiis down from the rafters, removing the varnish I applied years ago to preserve them, sharpen the edges, pinetar the bottoms and put a 3-pin binding on them. At 190, I would find that they are the shortest tele I have had. However, when I stand in the cable car, they will tower over all the clowns with funny colored boards. No need to tell them that they were my mom's is there?