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Thermoflex liner availability?

post #1 of 41
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for a couple sets of new Thermoflex liners. My original source (Swiss Sports Haus in Canada) is all out of the sizes I need and they're not sure if they're going to get anymore. Dynafit, Scarpa, Garmont, etc. are all too short unfortunately. The liner really needs to be at least 12" tall measured at the rear of the cuff.

The Thermoflex liners the Kneissl had been using and the ones that Swiss Sports Haus had were from a French company. Anyone have any connections to some new liners?
post #2 of 41
I have full size runs of the "Intuition" liners distributed by SVST. PM me if you are interested.
post #3 of 41
Thread Starter 
Appreciate the offer, but for this need I do not want to go the Intuition route. I'm looking for the "true blue" thermoflex, whether they are Raichle branded or have that French company's "swirly" thing on them.

Intuition needs to learn how to do a dual-density liner the right way. They glue their stiffer foam on the liner instead of stitching it in. I prefer the style that the original dual-density thermoflex uses.
post #4 of 41
I got a pair form Surefoot last season... they were Comformable liners. I would rec the liner but do NOT have them heat/fit you!!!
post #5 of 41
I see you're in Denver.

Call Precision Ski in Frisco. Talk to Jimbo or Les. They have what you want. Right now, they're only open until noon M-F.

Another route is Jeff Bergeron in Breck.
post #6 of 41
I have some of those left too....what size do you need
post #7 of 41
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for a 27.0 mondo for me and a 23.5 or 24.0 for my wife.

Thanks for the leads. I'll make some calls tomorrow to check availability and pricing.
post #8 of 41
www.bcstore.com

they have the garmont & scarpa variety
post #9 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by bud heishman
I have some of those left too....what size do you need

any size 28.0's available Bud?
post #10 of 41
In reference to the "Secret Stash" thread...I have a secret stash of thermoflexes.
post #11 of 41
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
In reference to the "Secret Stash" thread...I have a secret stash of thermoflexes.
Show me the love, fellow thermoflex brother! PM me!
post #12 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
I got a pair form Surefoot last season... they were Comformable liners. I would rec the liner but do NOT have them heat/fit you!!!
Hi IPS,

I'm getting ready to transfer my almost-new Conformables from my old boots to my new Salomon Course. I was able to heat the liner at home with good results. I understand they can be reheated a few times.

Why do you recommend the product, but suggest NOT to have them heat/fitted?

Best regards,

Barrettscv :
post #13 of 41
Noodler - I have a pair that I believe are 27 that I'm not using. They came out of a Flexon T. Let me know if you're interested.
post #14 of 41
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrettscv
Hi IPS,

I'm getting ready to transfer my almost-new Conformables from my old boots to my new Salomon Course. I was able to heat the liner at home with good results. I understand they can be reheated a few times.

Why do you recommend the product, but suggest NOT to have them heat/fitted?

Best regards,

Barrettscv :
The way I read his comment, it wasn't that he was suggesting not to heat it - he was suggesting that you shouldn't let Surefoot do the fitting!

Anyhow, I've found that there are 2 versions of the Conform-able liners. The original one was a wrap-around design like the Thermoflex. The new ones have tongues. I tried the version with the tongues and hated the combination with Flexons. I really like the feel of the wrap-around liner with Flexons.
post #15 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by SquawMan
any size 28.0's available Bud?
Sorry, I have 28s in the Intuition but not the thermoflex (only real small or real big sizes left in these)

I like the intuitions better than the old thermoflex DD's because they are stiffer and offer better energy transmission. The part you must be careful about is buckle tension. Because these liners are stiffer a slight change in buckle tension makes a huge difference so consiquently it is easy to overtighten your buckles and experience pain. Start with light tension then play with the micro adjustments to fine tune.
post #16 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodler
I've found that there are 2 versions of the Conform-able liners. The original one was a wrap-around design like the Thermoflex. The new ones have tongues. I tried the version with the tongues and hated the combination with Flexons. I really like the feel of the wrap-around liner with Flexons.
Mine is the wrap type. Great product. I heat both the shell and liner and stabilize the shell by mounting it on a ski. This helps my feet settle deeply into the heel before the liner sets.

Much better than the best factory liners from Technica or Salomon.

Cheers,

Barrettscv
post #17 of 41
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bud heishman
Sorry, I have 28s in the Intuition but not the thermoflex (only real small or real big sizes left in these)

I like the intuitions better than the old thermoflex DD's because they are stiffer and offer better energy transmission. The part you must be careful about is buckle tension. Because these liners are stiffer a slight change in buckle tension makes a huge difference so consiquently it is easy to overtighten your buckles and experience pain. Start with light tension then play with the micro adjustments to fine tune.
Bud - I prefer the Ultralon foam from Intuition also - provides a much higher performance fit than the original Thermoflex liners. However, the Intuition liners are too short for the Flexons or Kryptons and stretching them screws up the positioning of the wrap and their ability to really hold down the heel well (I guess you missed my other MILLION posts on the subject - I'm sure everyone is tired of listening to me whine).

I'm actually working directly with Rob & Crystal at Intuition on getting new Intuition liners that are tall enough for these shells. They just got back from China and they are promising me that they will have taller liners soon. They also said that we shouldn't "hold our breath" on the new Dalbello/Intuition collaboration on a new Krypton liner. Oh well.

In the mean time I'm looking high and low for a set of the original dual-density Thermoflex liners for myself and my wife. What sucks is that about 3 years ago (maybe 4) they were going for like $50 on eBay. I should've stocked up, but I didn't see the writing on the wall until it was too late.
post #18 of 41
www.telemark-pyrenees.com has a Scarpa "Long" Themoflex that has the stitching that you are looking for. Don't know if the "Long" is long enough. However, you can e-mail them and ask for the measurements. They are very cooperative.
post #19 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrettscv
Hi IPS,


Why do you recommend the product, but suggest NOT to have them heat/fitted?

Best regards,

Barrettscv :

I tried the "shop guys" way & they alsmost ended my season. They really had no idea how to mold them into a performance fit shell. One guy even asked how I got my foot into the boot. They got my foot 1/2 way into the boot & said "push". then they clamped the buckle down full force. Damn near lost some toes & damaged my feet for weeks. my feet were balck/blue from it. Plus the liners turned out v. poorly/ all sorts of twisted up.
I pulled up stuff from here, TRG, & teletips. I remolded them myself @ home w/ this internet know-how & things were much better. Surf some then mail me for my directions. I also found that the process was painless, once I had some more tips. There are some really easy tricks that make life much easier.
post #20 of 41
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostboy
www.telemark-pyrenees.com has a Scarpa "Long" Themoflex that has the stitching that you are looking for. Don't know if the "Long" is long enough. However, you can e-mail them and ask for the measurements. They are very cooperative.
Their tall thermoflex isn't tall enough for Alpine boots. It runs at about 11".
post #21 of 41
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
I tried the "shop guys" way & they alsmost ended my season. They really had no idea how to mold them into a performance fit shell. One guy even asked how I got my foot into the boot. They got my foot 1/2 way into the boot & said "push". then they clamped the buckle down full force. Damn near lost some toes & damaged my feet for weeks. my feet were balck/blue from it. Plus the liners turned out v. poorly/ all sorts of twisted up.
I pulled up stuff from here, TRG, & teletips. I remolded them myself @ home w/ this internet know-how & things were much better. Surf some then mail me for my directions. I also found that the process was painless, once I had some more tips. There are some really easy tricks that make life much easier.
It's not just Surefoot either. I had the same kind of experience with 2 out of the 3 shop fits that I had done. Don't assume that a shop knows how to do a full thermo-type liner. Educate yourself on how the process should work and then ask a lot of questions to figure out whether you're dealing with someone with enough experience to do a good job.
post #22 of 41
It is really scary what you find in shops these days. This guy had me convinced that this was the process.
It was so much easier to DIY @ home!
post #23 of 41

How about some NOS FLEXONs

Last week I found a couple pairs of NOS flexons (still in the box) with thermoflex lliners. What are these boots worth?
post #24 of 41
there was a NOS W/O thermos, but standard liner on ebay last week ....final bid $110.00

but it all depends on the size really
post #25 of 41

Unsolicited Plug: Snowind

And I don't mean the plug boot.

I visited Bud this past weekend and he's a class act.

He worked on my Nordica Beasts for some time. Bud knows his stuff and is very honest. He could have said I definitely need new boots -- three pair: on piste, off piste, and back up --but did not. He said let's work on your current boots and hopefully they'll do the job for you. Also, Bud gave me some shims for my bindings to play with the ramp angle which may affect how I set up my skis/binding/boots this season.

All I need now is snow.
post #26 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by NordtheBarbarian
Last week I found a couple pairs of NOS flexons (still in the box) with thermoflex lliners. What are these boots worth?
NOS?
post #27 of 41
NOS=New Old Stock
they are also NWT and NIB
post #28 of 41
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NordtheBarbarian
NOS=New Old Stock
they are also NWT and NIB
What are the shell sizes? What models are they (if you're not sure of model, what are the color combinations)?
post #29 of 41
Noodler
The boots that I have seen are bright yellow.from early 2000s
I'll check shell sizes, I wasn't really looking at the flexons, so i don't remember sizes. They were in boxes I check sizes and models.
post #30 of 41
Thread Starter 
BTW - for anyone interested in some cheap neoprene paddling sox (use the toe caps for fitting thermoflex liners) you can get them for $7.95 CAN at mec.ca (Mountain Equipment Co-op). I needed some replacements and just got mine. They're perfect and you can turn them inside out so that the seams are completely smooth next to the liner.
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