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post #31 of 39
the rental shop at our mountain has thousands of the Rossi developmant skis and each year in the spring, they sell 1/3 of their inventory, very cheap. skis with rental bindings for around $100. we can buy them (new)in the fall from the rossi rep for under $200 w/o bindings. Mine are 6 years old, so I might get new ones.

post #32 of 39
Originally Posted by onyxjl
Thanks for the links ts01. Quoting from the second...

"The most likely reason for the greater number of leg injuries in snowbladers is the non-releasable bindings on the snowblades."

It does appear that snowbladers are statistically more likely to fracture something than skiers. Given that I think we will probably just go with something like the Head Big Easy 94' which comes with the release binding. If the binding saves her from an injury, that is worth considerably more than the savings on the actually blade, which aren't huge.

I'm reasonably certain something like "spiral fracture" would quickly end her skiing ambitions.
Take a look around any terrain park and you will see another reason bladers are injured. Most bladers are jumping free stylers. I have taken some terrible spills myself both forward and back on nonrelease blades and never had so much as a strain. It's very seldom I strap on a set of blades but when I do I'm going to do something crazy. As long as you don't exceed 90cm length and stay on groomed surface the non releaseable bindings will not be a problem. Blades are terrible on pow and crud.
post #33 of 39
I am selling a pair in the ski swap.
post #34 of 39
I went into reading this thread prepared for the worst and I am totally surprised to see almost 100% positive responses with great comments from all. Either the naysayers are staying away from this thread or people's thoughts regarding skiboards (and BTW it is SKIBOARDS not skiblades, snowlerblades, etc.) as a great learning tool are changing. I agree with the thoughts regarding skiboards exposing flaws in your technique.

I only picked them up last year to use while teaching my son to ski. What I found surprised me. They're incredibly fun and really help you dial-in some critical carving skills that translate perfectly to full length skis. Skiboards are one of those strange beasts that work well for beginners to help them get comfortable with the sport and work just as well for the advanced skier to help them learn how to really carve a ski and work on their balance.

It's too bad that skiboarding seems to be having a tough time surviving as a sport. Manufacturers are having a tough time rationalizing producing the product with so little market penetration. Seems like the prime period was a few years ago. Most of the skiboarding equipment that's available to us now is of inferior quality compared to "real" skis. I picked up a couple pairs of Line Mike Nick Pros (the VW Bug version) just in case it all fizzles away...
post #35 of 39
I would discourage the use of snowblades are a learning tool to learn to ski. as a alternate snowsport recreational device like the snowbike, have a blast but other than balance and maybe edging they do not seem to me to help the would be student develop a sense of rotary and pressure control movements.

I would Highly recommend the short 130cm shaped training skis that many ski area use as part of the 1-2-3 Learn to ski program. I also onw a pair to teach from, I feel it is important for the instructor to be on "like" equipment for the believability factor at the minimum.

Snow Blades are not skis. Period.
post #36 of 39
Originally Posted by TomB
The only problem I see with blades/skiboards is that beginners might get into the habit of turning them via too much rotation. This is where it is critical to alternate with normal skis to avoid a bad habit.
Funny you should mention that.

Originally Posted by onyxjl
Rod, I agree that she should learn wedging skills as well. So far it has been a little difficult to keep her wedging though, as she just starts tipping that inside foot and is back to carving on her edges again. She definitely needs to learn not just to carve on the edges, but also to utilize skidding too.
At our hill, blades are used to teach carving. It is precisely to STOP over rotation and provide the carve feeling that they are used. She is doing exactly what is expected! Wedging on blades is not taught at our hill.
post #37 of 39
Wedging on those things is down right painful.
post #38 of 39
At a ski convention in 2000 (part of) the swedish national team instructors and skiers with among others Markus Larsson demonstrated use of the very short Elan blades to find a good position over the skis in the early season training.
I think that shorter models combined with stronger faster skiers makes the need for release bindings a bit smaller.. *Choosing my words very carefully now *
The clinic resulted in purchase of 2 pairs to be used by our skischools teachers.
post #39 of 39
When ski blades were just coming out salomon sent our race team about 10 pairs of them to use. The coaches made us use them for balance practice and they really work. Last year I rented a set for a day just to screw around on and that first run was a real eye opener. They were wiggling all over the place until I found their balance point. By the second run I was carving the crap out of them and basically keeping up with my friends on regular skis with no wiggle at all. I am thinking about picking up a pair this year for practice and just plain having fun.
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