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Swix Competing with Moonflex?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
https://www.artechski.com/Merchant2/...egory_Code=046

Anybody see these in person yet?

I wonder how they compare?

I may pick one up this weekend since I have some LL Bean coupons to use before they expire.
post #2 of 13
Try them out. Give us a report.
Looks like the same idea, different
pattern. Probably works good.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sorma
makes them on a contract.
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by John J
Try them out. Give us a report.
Looks like the same idea, different
pattern. Probably works good.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sorma
makes them on a contract.

I will if they have them in stock.

I was wondering the same thing since it says, "New product for 2006. Made in Italy, utilizing the highest quality diamond stones."
post #4 of 13
Go for a 400 or 600, probably get a better read from mid grits.
Of course with your "problem" (another thread), maybe you
should get them all plus a set of Diaface "minis". And a couple
of gallons of Secret Sauce.... Oh, and one of these
http://www.fktools-us.com/ProductDet...Number=SKS3035
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
I also need some Domintor Zoom but I can only get that online.



I have a mini spray bottle from Target for the secret sauce that shoots a very light mist so it lasts a long time.
post #6 of 13
if one were to get just one Moonflex (or Swix, for that matter) diamond stone for all purpose base and side edge use, which grit would you get?

(Scalce, do you remember which one Mike D. recommends?)
post #7 of 13
200 or 400.
200 if you are going to be doing more ding fix
400 for more general touch up
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skidiver
if one were to get just one Moonflex (or Swix, for that matter) diamond stone for all purpose base and side edge use, which grit would you get?

(Scalce, do you remember which one Mike D. recommends?)
Mike reccomends the medium grit Swix or DMT which used to be blue but it looks like the new style Swix blue stones are extra fine which is not good for normal use.

Don't go by color because it differs from one company to another and sometimes different models and years.

It's tough using one grit because it doesn't allow you to knock off tough burrs without killing the life of your medium grit file.

I use an old DMT 100 grit for a few initial passes for the nasty hits.

Then I use my 200 grit Moonflex to clean the edge up.

Then I use the 400 grit Moonflex for a few final passes. This is probably unecessary as the 200 does a great overall job.

Sometimes I follow it up with an old Swix or DMT fine diamond stone, or Arkansas stone to polish the edge.

I would say for a two stone setup that 100 and 400 grit work good.

For a single stone setup the Moonflex 200 would be fine but it may not last as long.

You should also pickup an Arkansas stone for under $6 to knock off the hanging burr off the base edge after doing the sides and for final polishing.
post #9 of 13
thanks, John and Scalce!

ugh, it looks like the Moonflex and even the smaller Swix diamond stones don't fit into my SKS multituner (I'm using a DMT pocket diamond stone now, blue). so I'd have to upgrade to dedicated base and side edge tools, I guess. probably more than I want to get in for now, especially if I spring for a tuning bench and vise.

but for when/if I do go that route, what are the preferred base and edge tools? memory tells me that the SKS Final Cut ($67.25 at Proform, ouch) is a good base tool, but I can't recall recommendations or the best prices on the side edge tool.

what's the consensus out there? (I'd be using skidoc's standard 0.5-1.0 base bevel and 3.0 side bevel for all our skis, so one tool for each would be sufficient.)
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
You don't need a base bevel guide because you are just maintaining a good tune from Mike.

On the base you just need to lightly rub a coarse diamond stone for heavy burrs and a medium for touchup. You do this freehand and just lightly apply pressure while concentrating on trouble spots. Don't drag the stone diagonally across the edge and dull it but keep it realtively flat with the base edge and work lengthwise.

For the side invest in an 3 degree SVST side bevel guide and cheap spring clamp for side filing. It takes seconds to switch out different stones and it the most efficient method for accurate side maintenance. They are pricey for a piece of aluminum or SS but they rock.

Do a final pass on the base edge again with an Arkansas stone to get rid of the hanging burr and you are ready to wax.

I almost never use my old multi tuners.
post #11 of 13
I don't have this but might be nice, it looks like it has a nice flat tool
surface with delrin or some "plastic" for the contact surface.

http://www.fktools-us.com/ProductDet...mber=MT3121.88#

If you did get base filing guides, you can get three of these for
the price of one SVST guide (as nice as they are).
http://www.ski-racing.com/base_beast.html
post #12 of 13
http://www.ski-racing.com/ "Side of Beast" is user friendly and well constructed yet reasonably priced. There are a lot of other very good side beveling tools around, as well.
post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
I just got my season pass and Artech tuning catalog in the mail.

It must be a sign to buy more tuning stuff.
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