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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hi y'all,

This may be a bit premature and somewhat opportunistic ... I am thinking of hanging in Europe for a few months at least till the end of the year. Hopefully with the help of few European bears I can get some great early skiing in at reasonable or low cost. I'll be based in a friends garage near Cologne, Germany. Any thoughts or invites!?!?!? Of course if I am ever in Colorado when you are there don't hesitate to ask me same!
post #2 of 17
Zig,

How's it going?

Life starts again at Copper in a few weeks. As seems all to usual a new director. Rest of the cast will be the same.

Start making turn tomorrow Loveland.

Enjoy Europe.

Mike W
post #3 of 17
Consider extending your stay til after turn of the year to score on some good skiing. From Cologne the best bet is to ride the train down to any alpine destination you like when snow is right, check out www.db.de for schedules. Trains run south almost every 2 hrs on daytime.

Else closest skiing near Cologne is http://www.allrounder.de/start_de/index_de.cfm
post #4 of 17
from cologne there are good train connections to bern and chur in particular, but austria works as well. i would look what the conditions are like, davos/klosters CAN be pretty good by then.

davos/klosters snowboard local/guide nic jenny publishes first-hand reports during the season, from which you can estimate what conditions are, beyon just reading figures. http://www.boardriding.ch , look for "reports". it's german, but that shoudn#t hurt. a unique source of information, and very reliable. if there is offpiste available, he will tell.


if snow is restricted to altitude, saas fee and zermatt are a safe bet, but farther away. austrian glaciers will typically be overrun in preseason and snow drought case.

andermatt nearly never has any snow problems. the groomed skiing there is good but limited to e few runs though. this is a resort to hire a guide...think of silverton in BIG.

if there has been decent natural snowfall and resorts report about 1 meter, skiing in the lower altidude austrian resort in the salzburger land and in the kitzbühel area can and will be pretty good, as they ski on pasture land.

another low, but snow-shure resort is the kleinwalsertal. if it snow in the region, it snows ALOT in that valley. there a some small, but fun resorts that will keep a keen skier busy for 4-5 days.

ischgl might be worth visiting, too. great lift system, ggreat terrain and quality grooming. my all-time favorite in terms of piste skiing.

arlberg is that much better later in the season that i woudl not go there in pre-season. however, neighbouring lech gets pounded once it snows, and may offer great conditions by mid-december.
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thnx people,

Unfortunately POW HOG I have to pay for this junket and that starts after the first of the year. But ... you know ... nothing is in stone when it comes to good snow oppty's.

Snowdan, I will print this and keep it with my atlas. Very much appreciated.

mikewil - miss you guys. give my best to all. Read about Loveland in the Summit Daily on line. ARGH! Is this a record early opening?
post #6 of 17

St. Anton am Arlberg?

Hi, maybe you want to stay in St. Anton/Austria/Tirol... I can`t offer you something to sleep, but I really can help you to find something

Greeting from St. Anton
Barbarella
post #7 of 17
If you want to ski early, think ice...as in glacial ice. In my opinion, the best glacier skiing in Austria is at Hintertux which is near Mayrhofen which is east of the Arlberg region. Train to Innsbruck and then transfer there to Mayrhofen (I think the train that goes down the Zillertal is a narrow gauge one - cool points). You'll have to find your way up the Tuxertal from Mayrhofen, but there's lots of transpo up the hill.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Wow, thnx again for the info and invites. St. Anton sounds expensive but I´ll be in touch, Barbarella. I have friends near Innsbruck, so that may work good. Keep the suggestions coming. regards,
post #9 of 17
If on a budget look into staying at Pettneu, Schnann (near St. Anton) or at Wald, Klösterle or Dalaas near Stuben, frequent shuttle busses to the resorts.
Just my 0.02.
post #10 of 17
St. Anton is not expensive. You can easily get an apartment with full kitchen for 5 people for $200/night. Lift tickets will run about $30/day, if purchased for 5 or more days. Sure, you can stay in Stuben, but you will enjoy St. ANton much, much more. Try Apartment San Antonio. It is run by the Zundel family. They are very good people. The apartments are very clean and it is a short, flat run down to the Nasserienbahn.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by bjohansson
If you want to ski early, think ice...as in glacial ice. In my opinion, the best glacier skiing in Austria is at Hintertux which is near Mayrhofen which is east of the Arlberg region. Train to Innsbruck and then transfer there to Mayrhofen (I think the train that goes down the Zillertal is a narrow gauge one - cool points). You'll have to find your way up the Tuxertal from Mayrhofen, but there's lots of transpo up the hill.
I think Tux is most expensive/crowded Austria glacier. Pitztal could be another glacier option (http://www.pitztaler-gletscher.at/) in Austria.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by sudovec
I think Tux is most expensive/crowded Austria glacier. Pitztal could be another glacier option (http://www.pitztaler-gletscher.at/) in Austria.
It does get crowded, especially on holidays, but the crowds go there because it is the best glacier skiing in Austria. Most glacier trails in Austria are pretty flat, The trails at Hintertux have pretty good pitch. That's why so many race teams train there early in the season.
post #13 of 17
Ziggyskier,
Soelden may be an option, two glaciers and is not as expensive as some other resorts nearby (i am talking accomodation, not lift passes) and reachable by train+bus. As Snowdan suggested, Ischgl is a fantastic place but i have had no early season experience there and it tends to be pricey.
Enjoy!
A
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Canyons
St. Anton is not expensive. You can easily get an apartment with full kitchen for 5 people for $200/night.
That doesn't really help him if he is on his own, on short term plus on a budget.

Staying directly at any of the main Arlberg resorts is definitely pricey. Riding the bus in the morning or evening to Stuben or St. Anton is well doable. Alexeys comment about Ischgl is on the mark too, but even there you can still stay further down the valley dirt cheap and use the shuttle bus.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thnx again people. I am taking notes and starting next week will be doing research. (Now still being burnt to death in Brazil!!!) Hope to be on boards before too long.

Just got a note on my email about joining some folks in Chamonix (sp?) early December. I am afraid that may be pricey, but considering the company might be fun. (Hate to blow my budget on one quick early sh-tty week though.) Any thoughts about this.
post #16 of 17
Usually snow coverage early December at Chamonix is a crux on the lower slopes due to the resort's lacking elevation. The terrain above 2000 m and the glaciers should be o.k. though.
post #17 of 17
Oh, if you can when you get over to France, ski Tignes or Val D'Isere - the general crowd is pretty horrendous as it's such an expensive place to stay, but I swear the skiing is truly wonderful...Early in the season the snow can suck a bit, and it sure is expensive, but around christmas even Chamonix rocks.
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