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post #31 of 72
1985 orange XLR`s. Still have them as my backup boots.Just need a blowtorch to get them on and off!

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post #32 of 72
One notable diference between the 100 and the 120/130/150 is the shell material. The 100 is made of a bi-injected polyester. The 120 is made of bi-injected polyether. he 130 and 150 are mom-injected polyether.

I'm not sure about the difference between the bi-injected vs mono-injected, but polyether is staffer and more consistant through temp changes than polyester.

This may not make a difference to most people, but at the very high-end, the differences are noticable.
post #33 of 72
G-day to all....


I worked for D/Lange for about 15 years in many capacities. Here are a couple of answers.

Bi injected is a stiffer (blue) and softer (silver) plastic injected into the same mold in different areas. For example, the C-120 has softer plastic over the instep area and in the throat to ease entry/exit. Mono is one hardness injected throughout as in the 150 etc.

The closest fit to the older ground zero last is the current C-120 low fit. The GZ and X-Zeros were the lowest volume models regularly sold to the public in many years.

Hope this is of some help.

SJ
post #34 of 72
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Originally Posted by SierraJim
The GZ and X-Zeros were the lowest volume models regularly sold to the public in many years.
I've got beatup X-Zero Nine ACDs that need to be replaced. What's the equivalent today ?
Thnaks
post #35 of 72
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Originally Posted by bruno
I think I'v narrowed it down to two,both are last years models,comp 100cac or comp 120 mf fr.I think I'm going to go for the 100's,not only are they $80.00 bucks cheaper,but I also read they are exacty the same boot except the 120's are a little stiffer.Does anyone think it makes a big difference
I just bought this year's Comp 100s after six years with my L10s and even though I haven't been on snow with them yet, I'm loving the way they feel. I'm 6'0" and 150 lbs. Yeah, a lightweight.

I probably shouldn't have gotten the L10s originally as they were way too stiff for my ability but I was young and more foolish then. In all likelihood, and in retrospect, they have probably hindered my ability to progress. I've done a lot of work done to them, on the advice of fellow coaches (notched V in back, cut top lobes off, dremel'd horizontal grooves).

You should be honest to the bootfitter (and yourself) about your height, weight and skiing ability and remember that you're in a store trying on boots. If you can barely flex a boot indoors, you won't be able to do so in -15 degree weather. A stiffer boot can always be softened, to a point, as well.
post #36 of 72
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Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
I've got beatup X-Zero Nine ACDs that need to be replaced. What's the equivalent today ?
Thnaks
The closest is the 120 Medium Fit, although with the new liner, you might like the Low Fit too. You'd have to try both to see.

SJ
post #37 of 72
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Originally Posted by SierraJim
The closest is the 120 Medium Fit, although with the new liner, you might like the Low Fit too. You'd have to try both to see.

SJ
Thanks
post #38 of 72
Just had to chime in. My last boot was a ground zero as well. Great boot, good looks an no frills. I wish I had not parted with it. I went to a LF Banshee 110 two years ago. Similar in flex if not a hair softer. Nice thermo fit liner until it packs out in about 30 days. Now it's sloppy unlike the zero which had a solid last.
post #39 of 72
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Originally Posted by drb
As I was replacing my Lange boots a number of years ago someone else came in ranting: "I hate Langes. They hurt, they're cold, they leak - give me another pair."

If you plan to use them another 9-10 seasons get a pro bootfitter:

MASSACHUSETTS
Bootfitter's Name: Gordon Hay
Store Name: Bob Smith's Wilderness House
Gordo update: he has resurfaced in Marblehead (i.e., North Shore of Boston) and will soon be introducing some radical new stuff (details to be revealed...) at this website:
http://www.alinesystems.com
post #40 of 72
I am on my 3rd pair---3-4 yrs each. I like the Comp 100s. Just right amount of flex for my weight and ability.

Do I like Lange boots----NAME MY 5 month old son----LANGE. It was better than Dynastar or Look. Mama not too keen on the siblings names yet. I am serious.
post #41 of 72
GG, you are my hero, i could never have pulled that off....maybe for the second child....
post #42 of 72
I started my Lange experience 4 years ago in 100's...great performance for me at the time, though I did destroy the rivets holding both the instep buckles apart.

Last year, it was the Lange World Cup 130 LF (retail version) with the Lange foam injection liner. Boot was a huge step in the right direction, though I didn't really like the foam injection liners.

This year, it's onto the WC 150 - RL11 - Plug - whatever you wanna call it today. I think the 'official' name is gonna be RL1 still, from what I've been told.

I love the new liner and feel of this boot. Right out of the box, it was a near perfect fit for me. The neoprene toe covering is great, the nice big pull loop at the top of the liner is absolutely a must-have, I love the adjustability of the tongue position. The locking cuff buckles are a great innovation, though I wish they would also put them on the lower two spots. The tongue - well, it's a monster, that'll take some work to break in.

All in all, my life with Lange has been 98% positive, with just a few minor issues to work out along the way.
post #43 of 72
The city of Colorado Springs has a neighborhood with skiing-related street names. They include Downhill, Purgatory, Telluride, Buttermilk, Mach One, Little Johnny, and..... Lange Drive.

AM.
post #44 of 72
I bought a pair of World Cup 130's HP fit last year and WOW they are by far the best feeling & skiing boot I have ever had. I have been skiing Salomon Course CF Race & X2 Lab boots for the last 8 years and ski everything – groomers, boiler plate, crud/junk, powder, steep technical lines, etc. All over the mountain in what ever the conditions are for the day. I finally tried on the World Cup 130's and found the best fitting boot for my feet. The fit & feel right out of the box is amazing! The stock liners (after just 1 heat molding) fit great and work real well. My only complaint at all is that the liners are a bit cold in the toes. I am putting an Intuition Alpine Custom Power Wrap liner in which should solve this problem. The trade off will be a little bit of sensitivity on firm snow. Can't say enough good about them. Go try on a Pair of World Cup 120/130's HP fit or the Freeride 120/130. You'll love the fit and be hard pressed to find a better boot.
post #45 of 72
I've been on Langes for the last 15+ years. Currently on a pair of X-Zero 8's I picked up as new demos at a ski swap sale for $99 about 6-7 years ago. They have been great boots, but are about due for replacement. A very experienced boot guy at the Killington shop I deal with said I might not be as happy with the current Langes. He indicated that except for the high end ones, they had been softened and widened in an attempt to appeal to a broader range of skiers. I really don't want a stiff race boot so I may be looking at other brands in the next year.
post #46 of 72
I just got a pair of the Freeride 110's and they are hands down the best boots I have ever owned. Wanted to 130's but the heel cup in the 110's provided a better hold. Also the liner in the 110's is better, I think. Only thing is I wish they were not white.
post #47 of 72
I was on Lange L10 Race boots for 9 years until this season, when I replaced them with the World Cup 120 WC fit. I need the WC fit (really narrow forefoot), and Lange has lengthened the toe box on the World Cup series, which is a big plus for me in terms of fit (read: I like my toe nails).

They did require some grinding around the styloids, and the liner was heat molded, but that's about it. I also moved my custom insoles from the L10s to the WC120s. And I swapped out the stock power strap for Boosters - another big improvement (and they stiffen the 120 flex to something more akin to a 135-140).

The result? A high-performance boot in all aspects, plenty stiff for this former FIS-level racer (6'4", 195 lbs.) without being punishing.
post #48 of 72
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Originally Posted by songfta View Post
I was on Lange L10 Race boots for 9 years until this season, when I replaced them with the World Cup 120 WC fit. I need the WC fit (really narrow forefoot), and Lange has lengthened the toe box on the World Cup series, which is a big plus for me in terms of fit (read: I like my toe nails).

They did require some grinding around the styloids, and the liner was heat molded, but that's about it. I also moved my custom insoles from the L10s to the WC120s. And I swapped out the stock power strap for Boosters - another big improvement (and they stiffen the 120 flex to something more akin to a 135-140).

The result? A high-performance boot in all aspects, plenty stiff for this former FIS-level racer (6'4", 195 lbs.) without being punishing.
How do you figure a Booster Strap increases the boot's stiffness?:
post #49 of 72
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
How do you figure a Booster Strap increases the boot's stiffness?:
It's mostly perception, granted, but I find it possible to get more out of the spine of the boot with the Boosters than with the stock power straps. I should mention that I have incredibly skinny ankles, and most power straps run out of effective velcro contact area before they can really do anything for me. The Booster, with its more firm-closing and infinitely adjustable ratchet system, Allows me to get a much closer closure on my lower leg, so the boots are far stiffer - and more responsive - as a result.

Note that I'm running the World Cup Boosters, given the leverage I can put on things with my height.

So yes, you're correct to point out the mostly anecdotal nature of my argument, but there's a big difference in stiffness with the Boosters than with the stock 40mm Lange power straps.
post #50 of 72

Any one know???

I'm currently skiing on a pair of '05/06 Lange World Cup LF 130 flex boots (plug version), and have an older (& softer) pair of Lange Zero X9 Races that I use for general all mountain skiing. Does anybody know, off-hand, what the flex rating was of the Zero X9? My World Cup LF's are like bricks in comparison.
post #51 of 72
I love Lange. It pained my to retire (except beer league) my Lange WC for my new Rossi (lange) bandits.
post #52 of 72
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Originally Posted by I:)Skiing View Post
I am on my 3rd pair---3-4 yrs each. I like the Comp 100s. Just right amount of flex for my weight and ability.

Do I like Lange boots----NAME MY 5 month old son----LANGE. It was better than Dynastar or Look. Mama not too keen on the siblings names yet. I am serious.

Lange boots are great, but thats just wierd. I hope people don't find out that you named your son after ski boots. I can picture recess now.............
post #53 of 72
Also a died in the wool Lange guy. Ironically, "Lange" is my last night but I also have very skinny ankles (6 foot 3, 185 lbs). I simply have not found another boot that comfortably grips the entire foot, ankle and heel like a Lange without being uncomfortable or painful. I currently have the Freeride 110s and they fit mostly perfectly out of the box. If I have only one complaint its that they can be cold. I had to install hotronics and that fixed the problem.
post #54 of 72
re: 2009 Comp Pro 130's - translucent blue
This is not the same build quality of the 2004/5 versions of the WC130. The liner looks like it would pack out in one season, very soft, no heel cup what's so ever.

Please refer to this URL about the new comp pros and super comps->http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=64673


BTW: I love my WC130's, fits like a glove right out of the box for me, no play in the heel. Very fast edge to edge!

I skied Langes for 28yrs. All race boots, but no plugs.
post #55 of 72
Are there any significant differences between an 06(?) Comp 120 LF (space blue) and an 08 World Cup 120 WC (crazy blue)? I thought I remembered some posters commenting that the newer models ran noticeably larger in size than the older models.

AM.
post #56 of 72
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Originally Posted by Attacking Mid View Post
Are there any significant differences between an 06(?) Comp 120 LF (space blue) and an 08 World Cup 120 WC (crazy blue)? I thought I remembered some posters commenting that the newer models ran noticeably larger in size than the older models.

AM.
They are two different shells with different internal measurements. The WC shell is a little longer in the toe box and most folks have downsized one size when going from a Comp to a WC shell.

The function of the shells are similar - long flex pattern and hinged at the ankles.
post #57 of 72
I didn't know that anyone else made boots. Isn't Lange the only manufacturer of boots out there. I mean I know that Burton and Ride make snowboard boots but ski boots Lange or die.

ok, enough sarcasm. Many people love Lange (like me), many people hate them. For the most part, todays boots are all of decent to good quality and the fit is key. Not the brand, not the color, not what your ski instructor told you to buy. Get a boot fitter and listen to him (her)
post #58 of 72

Lange THTs

I have a pair of the red Kange THTs from around 1986. Can anyone help me find another one, size 9M?
post #59 of 72

Lange THT size 9

If you have a pair or know where I kind find one, pls send me a mail at paschober@aol.com. Thanks.
post #60 of 72
I am a fan of them but they arent a fan of me. I remember having to have those Pinanfarina designed Langes and I forced myself into them only to tear them off after just walking around the house...excrutiating. A Lange foot I do not have.
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