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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
I want a GS (2-3 turns from top to bottom; non-race) ski to add to the quiver. Problem: I only weigh 155lbs. I've worked and lived in the industry for 12 years but have focused on freeride. I have the means to ANY pro/shop form. The best deal is on Rossi 9X worldcup RXI...

Question: Should I get the 181 (104-65-85 r:21.6) or the 184 (105-65-87 r:24.0)? Or: Can anyone suggest another manufacturer/make?

Would appreciate advice from bonified (grey haired) individual.

Thanks
post #2 of 18
181 works @ 175 lbs but as you are pushing the top end, I'd go bigger. 9x turns smooth. They will drop 1000 vertical in 2-3 turns but they prefer to be engaged more & use more hill sideways.
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
I was leaning toward the 181 [181 on the motherfu*kin cop ] Only funny cuz I have family in law enforcement.

Sweet mercy... I hope i kill myself... these things r gonna rip.

Happiness fills the air with joy!
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
P.S. Any volkls you'd suggest... I have pro/shop forms... I demo'd the superspeed in 182 ( i think)... The ski ripped but i still wanted more... something between that and a womens DH board?
post #5 of 18
You should be able to handle the 184 if that's what you're wondering. Some stronger women racers are using that length to cram in 40 turns on a run. You should have no trouble making 2 or 3.

-T
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by vailposseone
P.S. Any volkls you'd suggest... I have pro/shop forms... I demo'd the superspeed in 182 ( i think)... The ski ripped but i still wanted more... something between that and a womens DH board?
As someone who loves race skis but doesn't ski them, heed my advice. GS race skis are just too narrow to be freeskied on anything but sheet ice. Any piles of snow/sluff will make you boot out and knock you off line in a high angle GS turn. I would suggest something more like a 73-75mm waist, with a GS sidecut, and tons of lift. My GS ski is a 1st gen ('99-'00) 192cm stockli stormrider - 73mm waist and 28m sidecut. Sandwich construction with 3 sheets of Ti - yes, there are 2 sheets of Ti in the top layer. They feel more like a what a race stock GS board should feel like than any race stock GS board I've ever skied on....if you can imagine that.

Any newer variation of the stockli stormrider in a 194 length will fit the bill quite nicely - only 2 sheets of Ti, and a bit more versitle.

Oh, and if you're interested, I have pair of very nice Volkl p30 RC racing race stock gs boards mounted with a Ti deflex, in a 197cm (labled 200cm). They are a bit softer than the comercial 198 RC of that vintage. Full sidewall, torsion box, wood core, 2 sheets of Ti. At 155 lb, you will still be able to handle them for speed use.
post #7 of 18
I think you'll find 181 stable enough for your purposes and probably a little less scary on a crowded trail. If you just wanna boot from top to bottom, the 184 could be fun. However, at your weight, you stand a better chance at adopting proper technique for those skis in the shorter length, especially since you say you don't have a race background. Getting used to a long GS ski takes time if you've never skied one.
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by vailposseone
I want a GS (2-3 turns from top to bottom; non-race) ski to add to the quiver. Problem: I only weigh 155lbs. I've worked and lived in the industry for 12 years but have focused on freeride. I have the means to ANY pro/shop form. The best deal is on Rossi 9X worldcup RXI...

Question: Should I get the 181 (104-65-85 r:21.6) or the 184 (105-65-87 r:24.0)? Or: Can anyone suggest another manufacturer/make?

Would appreciate advice from bonified (grey haired) individual.

Thanks
Wouldn't a Rossi WC (race stock) be over-kill ?! Especialy for a 'free ski' ?
A course 66 (now 67 I think) in the longer size would be just perfect IMO. It will still turn when necessary and the lenght will gave speed and stability.
Or a Stockli.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
GS race skis are just too narrow to be freeskied on anything but sheet ice. Any piles of snow/sluff will make you boot out and knock you off line in a high angle GS turn.
Sorry, but I have to differ with you on this. GS skis are wonderful big-arc carvers on wide, steep groomers, in my opinion.

For a race ski, the 9x is quite docile for free skiing, while maintaining great stability. A good choce in 181 for what Vailposseone wants.
post #10 of 18
Yeah, sheet of ice is a typical freeskiing condition for me. I know it's quite different for the people out west.

-T
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by NE1
Sorry, but I have to differ with you on this. GS skis are wonderful big-arc carvers on wide, steep groomers, in my opinion.

For a race ski, the 9x is quite docile for free skiing, while maintaining great stability. A good choce in 181 for what Vailposseone wants.
Sure they will make a nice arc at moderate edge angles, but if you ski them as they should be with a GS technique, you'll be booting out constantly. Hence the need for width and lift.

By the way, this what he asked for:

Quote:
Originally Posted by vailposseone
I demo'd the superspeed in 182 ( i think)... The ski ripped but i still wanted more... something between that and a womens DH board?
A women's DH is a ton of ski. Any 190 - 200 cm full size mens GS ski will still be way softer flexing and less beefy. That's the perfect size verstile speed ski for someone his size. The 194 stockli would be a good equivalant in a freesking ski.
post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 
Im not worried about booting. THe plate and binder will put me around ~28-32mm (Im guessing... w/o looking at the stats) up off the snow... If I need more , I can always raise it up... Im a tech and have access to shop and materials. Thanks again.
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
By the way, this what he asked for:



A women's DH is a ton of ski. Any 190 - 200 cm full size mens GS ski will still be way softer flexing and less beefy. That's the perfect size verstile speed ski for someone his size. The 194 stockli would be a good equivalant in a freesking ski.
I must disagree. Big GS skis are made for big men. Women's SG skis are made for women. Each have their purpose but it will be easier to ski SG on the women's SG ski than it will be to ski GS on the big men's GS ski. Young racers are always recommended to go with an SG ski suited to their weight rather than a big GS ski used as a SG ski for that reason.
post #14 of 18
Don't encourage Highway Star.
post #15 of 18
No disrespect to anyone, most notably not to you, Vailposseone, but you sound like a bit of a hellraiser. The Rossi 9x should suit you fine, also at your level (I'm making a bold assumption here) those 3 cm shouldn't make too much of a difference one way or the other. Sounds like you dislike those tiresome short turns, so go for length. If you want more options go for 181.

I skied the 9x's last season and found them very pleasant and fast. With the integrated plate etc. (at least mine had..) I experienced no booting out.

I'm tall and heavy (185cm 95 kg) and skied the 181, used them for short, medium and long turns on ice and crud and rocks (the latter being the reason for their untimely replacement). No performance issues encountered, until I busted the sidewalls with an impressive head plant (at least they told me it was impressive). After that, they were a bit wishy-washy. Did find the ski's a bit heavy for the powder, but that just means you sweat more.

Don't forget, it only becomes an exact science once you reach the higher stratosphere. For us mortals looking to have some fun the game is a whole lot simpler. Just get a good bargain and ski them to death.

Be careful not to dissect anyone on your way down!
post #16 of 18
Vailposseonline,


Just to open up more options, look at the previous model 9X at:
http://www.princetonski.com/browse.cfm/4,4174,1043.htm

They don't have pics, but they do have a 188cm at 299 (I would want a binding with it for that money as it's a 2002 model...)

So if you want to go LONG that'll do the trick...that's quite a heavy ski though

For more all terrain ability look at the Rossi RPM 21 on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.nl/Rossignol-03-New-184cm-RPM-21-Skis-Power-110-Bindings_W0QQitemZ8715042611QQcategoryZ21245QQssPa geNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I am not affiliated with any of these stores or with Rossignol. I have just found that I like Rossignol ski's a lot although more current boards are by Dynastar (Candide Pro @ 180)

Good luck!
post #17 of 18
Spellcheck on that last post:


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post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by D(C)
I must disagree. Big GS skis are made for big men. Women's SG skis are made for women. Each have their purpose but it will be easier to ski SG on the women's SG ski than it will be to ski GS on the big men's GS ski. Young racers are always recommended to go with an SG ski suited to their weight rather than a big GS ski used as a SG ski for that reason.
I'm not sugesting junior skiers race SG on a large mens GS ski. There's a big difference between a (relatively) soft flexing 200cm, 35m ski and a firmer 195cm, 25m ski.

However, this guys is not a junior racer, and he's not racing SG. It sounds like he wants a big GS ski to freeski on, correct? A 190-195 cm men's gs, with a 25-28m sidecut and moderate flex for a lighter man, is perfect. A 155 lb racer can handle that in a fast open GS course, and so should he. Not all race stock skis are built for 225lb he-men.

Regardless, the stockli stormrider XL in a 194 is still a far better choice to freeski GS on. Even if you put a ton of lift on a race ski you will still have boot out problems on variable snow.
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