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post #1 of 12
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I have about decided to buy the K2 Axis X.I am a fairly aggresive skiier..I would say around a level 7 skiier. I ski on the east coast some but normally spend a couple weeks out west each year so I enjoy moguls and powder. I am currently skiing on an older pair of Rossigonl Cut 10.4's at 170 length so you can see why its time for an upgrade. I am 6'0 about 160 and I am debating the 174 or 181 length. I am leaning toward the 174 because everyone has told me not to go to long and I am very comftorable on my 170 length, but I would hate to buy the 174 and regret it down the road.
Thanks for the help
post #2 of 12
I have the Mod X. This is the same ski before they changed the name and graphics and deleted the ACX unit which was redundant due to the mod material. I am 5'4" and run the 174cm which is just right for me. i could go to the 181's Which would give me more high stability speeds, but I like the short turns and at higher speeds the ski hasn't chattered on me yet. I'm still finding out what these puppies can do!

I would suggest to go with the 181's at least, and longer if you can, with your height. I guarantee you will find these skis turn on a dime and give you 9 cents change! So don't be concerned about the extra length. You're a good enough skier to handle them. At first it will be like they ski themselves and you're just along for the ride!

Anyone else have suggestions? Do you think he should go longer as well? I do.
post #3 of 12
I live in New Hampshire and have skied on the mod X (now Axis X) for 2 years. I am 6' tall and weight 185 lbs. I have found that for our normal conditions - fairly hard groomed trails - the Axis X PRO gives much better grip and control. As much as I love the ski, I regularly regret not having bought the PRO model. I am on the 188. In the pro model I might drop down to the 181 cm since it is a bit stiffer and heavier and I want to keep the agility of the ski, so I suppose that 174 - in the pro model - might be a magic carpe ride for you. Good luck!
post #4 of 12
I'm a similar height and weight to you, and I'm on the 181 Axis X Pro. For your ability, I would consider the 174 or 181, shorter will be slightly easier to turn, longer will have better speed.
Bumps are the nearest thing to a weakness in the Pro, just cause they are so stiff, so if you want to spend more of your time in them, then go for the Axis X.
You should be able to get a good deal on them now until the end of the season, since the new ones have just been announced.

post #5 of 12
I just bought a pair of the AXPs in a 181. My quiver includes a pair of Olin Selkirks in a 195...I am 6'1" and 185#. I ski very aggressively. I strapped these babies on for the first time this past weekend in Mammoth. They are by far the FUNNEST ski I have ever skied in my 20+ year career. They were awesome in almost all situations: crud, wind packed chutes, and BUMPS. I had a blast. Skis like this should be illegal. You are looking at the right size. I opened them up big on the groomers. Some of the most stable and confidence inspiring skis that I have tried in high speed GS style turns. I thought people were blowing smoke when they said this ski was a true all mountain ski. I don't feel like I was compromised in any condition. Regardless of the radius or angle of your turns, if you ski agressively, these skis will NOT let you down. I mounted them up with a pair of Marker 1200s. Enjoy!!!
post #6 of 12
By all means 174.

I teach full time and am a "pro rep" for K2. Everyone buys skis that are too long. I'm 5'10" 180 and ski a 160 Mach S.
post #7 of 12
Here is the link for K2's sizing recommendations:K2 Ski Sizing
In my opinion, their sizing is very reliable, although the recommendations of many are to go very, very short. A true level 7 skier at 6'0" and 160 lbs. should be very comfortable on the 181. Many are saying 174, but if you don't want to regret it, try both and decide which one you prefer, not what the masses think. They'll be your skis, not ours.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ February 26, 2002 10:42 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Bandit Man ]</font>
post #8 of 12
Need to answer one major question. Short or long turns? If you prefer a shorter turn and like to ski the bumps go for the 174. If you like to cruise and make a longer turn in crud and pow then go for the 181. You have some height to you but you are a twig @ 160lbs. If you are a younger guy, still physically developing you might put on some pounds still, the 181cm might be the way to go.
Everybody talks about height,. but your weight effects the ski just as much as the leverage you will get from your long legs.

I like longer turns, I am 6'0 190lbs, I ski the X-Pro in a 195cm. At times I wish it was longer, and at times I wish I was on the 188cm (only in the BC when it gets tight and heavy).

Your best bet would be to demo one of the two sizes if possible and then you would have your answer.....
post #9 of 12
With modern equipment I NEVER hear anyone saying "I bought these too short". But, I've heard a number of times, "I bought these too long".

It used to be, when in doubt, go longer. Now, it's when in doubt, go shorter.

At 6' you are 182cm tall. I always recommend people go with a ski at eye level. Thus the shorter ski.

Will you be able to ski the longer one? Sure. But, will it maximize your pleasure on it? Probably not.


ps, BTW, you made a nice choice in ski, it's sweet!
post #10 of 12
I just got back this morning to frigid Augusta, GA from five glorious days of spring skiing in Lake Tahoe. While there, I demoed the Atomic 9.22 in 180 (at Heavenly), the K2 Mach S in 167(at Alpine Meadows), and the Axis X in 181 (Squaw, Sierra at Tahoe, and Sugar Bowl). I am 6' 175 and am a solid level 8 and ski anywhere on the mountain that won't get me easily killed. I can honestly say that the K2 Axis X is the greatest ski I have ever been on in my life. This ski went through crusty wind blown snow, thick wet crud, ice and soft bumps (turns or zipper line) and carved high speed long and medium radius turns in soft groomers like nothing I have ever been on.
The only shortcomings I noticed were in short radius turns. I tend to agree with others who say to go with a shorter ski if you prefer shorter radius turns over long. It's not that it was bad, I just could not get the ski to fully carve short radius turns on steep groomers and resorted to older technique and let the tails slide a bit to get it around. This may be exceptable but it was work compared to medium and long radius turns. I think with a few more days on them I may have figured it out? But then again, I always loved skiing short radius turns in the fall line but these things are way too much fun carving medium and long radius turns. The other problem I noticed (and I'll blame this on the lack of a sharp tuned edge, these skis were beat up coming from Porter's) was edge hold and slight chatter on boilerplate. Coming from the East Coast, I don't mind the hard stuff but I worked hard at putting the ski on edge and holding it there on slow medium radius turns to keep it from slipping and chattering. I think the ski would do a better job with properly tuned edges.
Either way you go you won't go wrong. It all comes down to the size of the turn you want to make. What the ski magazine reviwers say about this ski's ability to make varied turning shapes is true but the smaller skis may be better with short radius.
The K2 chart says I should be in the 188 but I'll stick with the 181s. My local shop has two pair of 181s left. If I can get them at a good price, they may only have one pair left.
post #11 of 12

keep working on those short turns. I have found that the Axis X is VERY quick at short turns, even quicker than the Salomon X-Scream Series, which is a nice, snappy ski.

find that sweet spot and tip those feet. keep that upper body square. move the tibias in tandem.
post #12 of 12
Hey Gonzo,

Thanks for the tips. I too have found the Axis X to be very quick from edge to edge but not as quick as the Mach S. When I say "quick edge to edge", it is more like a swivel turn or zipper line at slow or fast speeds. Very similar to the sensation of turning on hockey or in-line skates. However, that is not your traditional "complete" short radius turn of making connected C's. When I attempted to make "complete" short radius turns on steep groomers, I found that the tails would want to grab and not slide or skid as easily as traditional skis (wider tail?). It felt as this ski wanted to run and make longer radius turns. Now I know that sounds like it is defeating the purpose of the modern carve, but after talking with some instructors, it sounds as if sliding the tails in certain situations such as short radius on steep terrain is exceptable as it was with old equipment and technique. If so, it's harder to slide these tails then on my old 200cm 5500's and slalom skis. I don't know since I don't have enough experience on the new boards. I would like to see someone carve a "complete" tight short radius turn on steep terrain without skidding a pair of 181's to see if it's possible. I think the turning radius of these things may have something to do with the size of the "carved" turn they are capable of making.
I figured out the tipping the skis on edge technique fairly quickly from reading articles and taking a lesson. (These new skis and technique are cheating! It's too easy!) As far as upper body goes, mine is always pointed straight down the fall line and I let my lower body turn underneath me when it comes to short radius and bumps (I have found my upper body wanting to follow the skis more so in longer radius turns... great fun laying down railroad tracks!). So maybe I need to stand on these things like pencil skis when attempting to carve a "complete" short radius turn. It seems as though they are soft enough where you could power them through by weighting and unweighting a "complete" short radius turn? I don't know, I would like to try them again though.
By the way, my local shop will sell me a pair of 181's for $499 and Marker 1200 pistons for $190. Mounted for under $700 good deal or should I wait? Living in Augusta, GA, I have not bought a pair of skis in over 15 years. I think it's time.
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