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Bulk buys on toe warmers?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
My daughter has perenially cold feet. She has Boot Gloves, which are great, as well as some foil sole liners. But on cold days, she still sometimes needs chemical toe warmers.

We were able to find the hand warmers at Costco for cheap ($17.49 for 40), but not the toe warmers. Any suggestions on where to get good deals on those?
post #2 of 21
REI is my main source. They offer discounts for larger quantities.
post #3 of 21
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Originally Posted by Max_501
REI is my main source. They offer discounts for larger quantities.
I am pretty sure that EMS does the same thing.

I purchased a large variety pack from them a few years back.
post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by skidiver
My daughter has perenially cold feet. She has Boot Gloves, which are great, as well as some foil sole liners. But on cold days, she still sometimes needs chemical toe warmers.

We were able to find the hand warmers at Costco for cheap ($17.49 for 40), but not the toe warmers. Any suggestions on where to get good deals on those?
Skidiver - I gather you found the handies in a boston area Cosco? Has anyone seen them in any of the Puget Sound Costcos yet this year?
thanks
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post #5 of 21
Toe warmers = poor fitting boots.
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Toe warmers = poor fitting boots.
Or -40 degree days in Tremblant.

post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Toe warmers = poor fitting boots.
I need toe warmers when I wear slippers in my house. Some of us just have cold feet.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by Posaune
I need toe warmers when I wear slippers in my house. Some of us just have cold feet.
exactly. she just gets cold easily, in all activities, especially in her extremities.

she's 7, and it's not easy to fit boots for kids. but her boots fit her reasonably well last year. if anything, they were a bit loose, so I doubt a constriction of the blood flow was the problem.

yes, it was the Waltham, MA Costco that had the bulk hand warmers. I imagine we get winter items sooner out here that you would on the left coast.

thanks for the REI and EMS tips. I'll check them out. the REI website doesn't have anything about bulk toe warmers, but I'll call the Boston store to see what they have. and there is an EMS very close to my office.

if anyone knows anything about Toes-ters (see my other thread at http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=30414) as a possible cost-effective substitute for the toe warmers, I'd love to hear about them. (we'd need to get rechargeable batters for sure to make it worthwhile, if they even work.)
post #9 of 21
I bought a bunch of the discounted hand warmers from Home Depot last year and was disappointed in the quality.

I did a comparison on a really cold day and the ones with the PSIA endorsement on them came out way ahead in terms of warmth generated.

I think they (PSIA), had a shorter life ... six versus eight hours than the Home Depot (orange package), more for a guy who works an eight hour shift in cold that wasn't as extreme.

I tend just to buy the toe warmers and stick them on the top of my hands under the glove.
post #10 of 21
http://www.rei.com/online/store/Prod...ory_rn=4500521

If you buy 10 or more they give you a 20% discount. I think my last purchase was 140 of them from the website.
post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Toe warmers = poor fitting boots.
Hmm...do you mean that you must have a poor fitting boot if you need them to warm your feet or that if you put them in you'll end up with a poor fitting boot?

I tried them myself and hated the way they feel, but the kids use them all the time. In fact, they won't ski without them.
post #12 of 21
I think what Phil is getting at is that you have added "something" inside the boot. When you put that sticky thing on the top of your foot, you don't crack down as hard on the first two buckles.

I like a very tight boot and it does throw you off. The only time I would use them was when teaching night lessons to high schoolers and lower end classes and they are a must when you are working a race.

When working a race, you are standing in one spot for three hours and only make a run down for lunch and at the end.

Your kids are just out to have fun and probably don't get hung up in the "perfect fit" and "perfect turn" stuff. I think it's better that they build the miles in comfort ..... the other stuff may come later.

No kidding ... the ones with the PSIA shield, put out way more heat and if they have cold feet, after the cost of a $60 lift ticket and the $10 burger, the forty cents for the warmth is chump change.
post #13 of 21
Just read an article in Ski or Skiing where it was recommended to put Cayanne pepper on your fingers before gloving in. Of course wash well before touching anything and I mean anything. While recommended for fingers, I would imagine toes would work even better---and you dont have to worry about the touch thing---unless your freaky that way....
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by Yuki
Your kids are just out to have fun and probably don't get hung up in the "perfect fit" and "perfect turn" stuff. I think it's better that they build the miles in comfort ..... the other stuff may come later.
Absolutely...let the kids have nice warm fun!

I know a girl that is just...cold. Shes always cold. A few times she tried putting toewarmers in the boots. Got them nice and hot, then booted up. Trouble was that ten minutes later the toe-warmers were stone cold again...take feet out of boots and they'd start getting warm again. Regardless of foot size, those itsy bitsy 22.5 ladies boots have sooo little room in them. It sucks how those women tend to be most likely to need boot-heaters, and those boots tend to be hand-cramping heck to install them in... my fat hands hardly fit in the liners.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by skiingman
Absolutely...let the kids have nice warm fun!

I know a girl that is just...cold. Shes always cold. A few times she tried putting toewarmers in the boots. Got them nice and hot, then booted up. Trouble was that ten minutes later the toe-warmers were stone cold again...take feet out of boots and they'd start getting warm again....
skiingman, thank you for reminding me about that problem! I had forgotten about it. apparently, the chemical warmers require oxygen to work. my daughter had that exact experience last year.

perhaps our best two options are

1. Put warmers on the outside of the boot on the toes and underneath the boot gloves, as someone in an earlier thread recommended (http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...795#post243795), and

2. Electronic warmers. (I can't see forking out the cash for Hotronics or similar, though. I wonder if the Toe-sters referenced above would do any good...?)
post #16 of 21
We take the toe warmers out of the little bags at least 15 mins before we put them in the boots. My two kids and wife have never had a problem with them getting cold during the day and the kids in particular have pretty snug boots (they race and are sized as such). BTW, we keep the boots in the house on a boot dryer all the time so they are always warm and ready to go. If you leave your boots in the garage or the car then you are likely to have cold feet.

I had to laugh at the comment that the kids are just out to have fun and they don't care about fit. Certainly having fun is a major part of the sport, but my little guy (age 9) is quite competitive and he likes his equipment just right. When helping him gear up if the slightest thing doesn't feel right in the boots we take them off and do it again. Sometimes takes 3 or 4 tries before he's happy with the feel. And the night before a race he's asking me to make sure his edges are sharp enough and that they are waxed with the 'special' race wax
post #17 of 21
Was in exactly the same situation with my daughter and toe warmers. Thankfully, she's 16 and last year we were able to buy her boots and install Hotronics.

Costco in NY and NJ sometimes carry the handwarmers, but I've never seen toe warmers. You can try EBay (search for "mycoal"), but I always found best bet for getting them cheap was late February or early March when places like Sports Authority and Models put their ski/Winter stuff on sale. One year, Target was blowing them out at $1.00 for a pack of 3.

Just one word of caution when buying in quantity - these things have expiration dates afterwhich they may still work, not be as warm or last as long.
post #18 of 21
Max: My kid is about as serious as you can get. My comment is regarding the recreational skier in the formative stages when just being on the hill should be fun ..... cause if it's not fun they will never get to the second (fanatic), step.

He's now a fifteen year old who will spend 100+ days on snow this year, gone to race camps in BC and Austria, has five sets of skis ... 2 SL, 2 GS, 1 SG and a pair of rock skis .... ooops six .... does his own tuning.

He only uses hand warmers on "0" kinda days ..... but you have to get the horse to water ..... then if they drink ..... you go broke $$$$$.
post #19 of 21
Yuki, yeah I hear yah, its gotta be fun. It'll be nice when my kids can tune their own skis.

Earlier in the thread there was an implication that you can't fit these toe warmers in a properly fitting boot. Yet I have two kids with boots that fit just right and they won't ski without the toe warmers. Maybe the fact that they've used them every day out for the last 4 seasons makes a difference, I don't know. Personally I hate having them in my boots.
post #20 of 21
I used to use the cayenne pepper on my toes. I'd shake it into the toe of my sock or mixed it with lotion and lotioned my toes. Works. But watch it! If I didn't get every bit washed off with COLD water when I took I shower I'd be screaming from pain as my feet burned with the hot water. I also remember even after a shower going out to dinner and my feet burning up (there must have still been some left).

Now I use hotronics -- and I don't burn my feet anymore. Some people are just cold footed. And for those of us skiing in frigid weather they are so worth it. They can be moved from boot to boot so they can last years (till the batteries start loosing it) -- if you are going through a lot of the packets it might be worth it.

I found the heaters online somewhere by the case before -- I don't remember the web site but a google/froogle search should turn up something.

Always Skiing
post #21 of 21
I don't like the change in the boot fit period. Drives me nuts but when you are gate tending and have to stay in one spot for a few hours they are a godsend.

Another mention was made of shaking them and waiting before you put them in ..... very true ... that reaction needs to start!

I'm still gonna push that brand with the PSIA (and I quit PSIA) .. logo on them, they were way warmer than the hardware store brands.

It is worth searching out the ones for the boots .... way slimmer and I use them in my gloves. This year I won't even buy the regular size.

I'll show my age here, but does anyone remember the Jon-E warmers with the kidney belt?
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