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'04-'05 The Beast vs. '04-'05 X-Wave 9

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I've got a line on both these boots for about $375. Both fit me great and I think they will remain so as they pack out. I do have narrow heels though and am not sure if that may be a problem in either boot. Do any of you have any opinions on either of these boots from a fit and performance standpoint? I don't need a rock hard boot and would probably run the Beasts at the soft flex point of 110 vs. the X-Wave 9 at 100.
post #2 of 19
The beasts are no where near as stiff as the Salomon XWave 9's. Just because they have have the same flex index number does not mean that they will flex the same (same stiffness). If you are a lighter skier I would go for the beasts. If you like a little stiffness to your boots then go with the Salomons.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
I've tried them on side-by-side and I don't know how you can say that The Beast (not Beast 10 or Beast 12) is softer than the X-Wave 9. When the flex adjustment is set to hard on the Nordica, it is definitely stiffer than the Salomon. When set to soft, they feel similar.
post #4 of 19
maybe I was thinking about the Beast 12
post #5 of 19
It was bettwen these two in my boot purchase last year. I went with the XWaves. They felt a little more upright (less forward lean), and I like that.
post #6 of 19
I ended up with 'The Beast' boots (the transparent red model with no number) partially because I thought they fit my narrow heel better than other boots. I've been very happy with them.
post #7 of 19
I've had a pair of x-wave 8's for four seasons and had nothing but trouble with them. Apparently from a problem common to all Salomon boots. I too have narrow heels and the boots give too much movement here.

I definately wouldn't go with Salomon's again although I've not tried the others.
post #8 of 19
Check out the Salomon Pro Model.
post #9 of 19
Last year I tried many boots including the Sal X Wave 10; I went with the Beast (04 05) and keep it on the stiffest setting. Good heel hold down. I need fiitting for liners and footbeds as I have flat and slightly wide feet.

I'll try to use it again this year; I put 61 days on it last year.
post #10 of 19
I can't speak to the Salomons since I never tried them, but I can add a vote for the Beasts. I replaced a pair of 14-or-so year old Raichle Flexon Comps with a pair of Beasts last year, and I've been delighted with them. I've always had difficulty getting good comfort, warmth and performance out of my boots -- even the Raichles, which were pretty extensively fitted by a very skilled guy at a high end shop where I worked during college. To my surprise, the Beasts fit better out of the box than any boot I've ever owned; I dropped my old custom footbeds in them, had the liners heat molded, and haven't looked back. They are comfortable and warm, and they perform very well, which is about all I could really ask of a boot.

If you can get them for around $350, I think you'd be getting a good deal.
post #11 of 19
Another vote for the Beasts. I paid like $100 more for the Beast 12's last year, and love them. I too have narrow heels, wide forefoot. While not perfect, the beast was the best fitting boot I found, and I tried every mainstream boot out there. I ski the Beast 12 in it's stiff flex, and it feels pretty much perfect to me. I thought about shelling out another $100 or so for the Beast rather than the Beast 12, but decided I didn't need the extra stiffness.
post #12 of 19
Guys, these opinions are all great but they are just that.
The best boot for you is the one that fits your foot best and secondly, has the characteristics you are searching for.
post #13 of 19
The beasts I have tried on have felt, boxy, cantekerous and overly cushy.

Make sure you get shell fit and don't go too big!
post #14 of 19
Beasts are the best boot I've ever tried. Technica's are too soft and low,X-waves too high and stiff. Beasts fit me the best. Very comfortable and great power!
post #15 of 19
If both fit you well, then you can't go wrong from a performance standpoint. They both have great liners and similar features. It comes down to personal preference on your part.
post #16 of 19
I have skied on my xwave 9.0 for 4 years about 80 days.Best boot I have EVER owned for MY feet, not neccesarily for YOUR foot. They are warm, snug fitting and Very easy to get on and off with a really easy to operate buckle system. Try both on and buy both and wear around the carpet at home(if the shop will let you return one). Put in your bindings , rock around. A boot shold NEVER cause any pain if fitted right and DON't FORGET to get Customs orthodics.- Good luck
post #17 of 19
I recall hearing something about the Salomon boot having a cavity under the foot which can make it tricky for a bootfitter to plane off part of the sole to lift the toe or heel, or to cant the sole. This is a combination of hearsay and weak recall, so anyone who knows please chime in. FWIW I am in 2003-4 Nordica Beast, and have an internal heel lift and external toe lift to give me a more upright stance, more ankle flex and more room in the cuff, done by Green Mountain Orthotics Lab.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by FOG
I recall hearing something about the Salomon boot having a cavity under the foot which can make it tricky for a bootfitter to plane off part of the sole to lift the toe or heel, or to cant the sole. This is a combination of hearsay and weak recall, so anyone who knows please chime in. FWIW I am in 2003-4 Nordica Beast, and have an internal heel lift and external toe lift to give me a more upright stance, more ankle flex and more room in the cuff, done by Green Mountain Orthotics Lab.
I've never heard about the cavity issue. I will say that my bootfitter had to plane my x-wave 10's quite a bit to get me properly aligned, and it didn't seem to be an issue.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by Coach13
I've never heard about the cavity issue. I will say that my bootfitter had to plane my x-wave 10's quite a bit to get me properly aligned, and it didn't seem to be an issue.
Thanks. I said my recall was not great, and hate to put out bad info, but also hate to ignore a potential issue.
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