Originally Posted by philippeR
Yes, actualy I agree with you. I suspect too that the main factors are cultural and / or economical. It's the same thing with black people for instance : How many black skiers or black drivers ?
Sorry for the length of this guys...I think the rain is severely exacerbating my ADHD today! Anyhow...
Exactly. If we limit the scope of the example to black males, the only reasons I can see that their participation in sports such as skiing, auto racing, golf, etc. is well below the rate of caucasions are socio-economic. You could try and take economic out by claiming that participation rates are roughly the same for lower-class people regardless of race, but looking at the rate of participation for wealthy minorities would seem to dispel that myth.
The minority argument is a whole 'nother thread, however...back to the women!
Originally Posted by philippeR
I've quoted Michele Mouton
(new link...) because she's a rare, maybe unique example of a woman competing at the highest level in a traditionaly all-male sport. And who had to face a fair amount of sexist comment from some other drivers, like Walter Rhohl ('even a monkey can win with an Audi Quattro'...) I've found interesting and provocative that her opinion is so oddly un-PC. To be honest she also said that the absence of women in auto-racing in general was due to cultural and economical factors. Her 'biological' comment concerns specificaly formula one.
Agreed, agreed, disagreed. I still have a problem accepting the biological determinism slant. Granted, I'm not a scientist, so I may be way off base here as far as the self-preservation instinct issue goes. Logically, however, I feel that A) Not all women are wired the same, and B) "Self-preservation instincts" can be overcome -- the psychological aspect of training soldiers is a perfect example. 99% of civilians will give in to instinct (by panicking, running, etc.) when fired upon. I've heard claims that in WWII, 75% of U.S. soldiers did NOT return fire when fired upon. The natural human instinct (self preservation?) as well as the gravity of taking the life of another human simply prevented them from doing their job. Fast forward to Vietnam, where 75% of U.S. soldiers fired upon RETURNED fire. I've heard the # is over 90% today. Again, I haven't confirmed those #'s, so don't hold me to them!
Continuing with the logic, I'll use myself as an example. From what I know of F1 racecar construction, safety, death & injury rates vs. downhill skiing safety, death & injury rates, I'd say I'd be more easily coaxed into doing 200mph in a Ferrari than 85mph on the Hannenkahm. I'd also drive the Ferrari before I volunteered to run a crossing pattern against an NFL defense, stand in the box against Randy Johnson, or take a job as a contractor in Iraq. Of course, I've never driven 200mph...so I'm probably full of shit.
So let's get back to the women in freeskiing. For those skiers that possess the physical and mental skills needed to safely perform the aerial and balancing (rail sliding) manuevers commonly seen in halfpipe or slopestyle comps, the risks are fairly low. Let's face it, we're not asking Kristi Leskinen to throw switch bio 900's over Chad's Gap...nor are we asking a beginner/intermediate skier to throw big 360's.
So I think my point is I talk too much! Lol...No, it's just that I think the sole reason that the girls lag behind the guys in progression as well as representation is due to a lack of participation by the ladies that is a direct result of cultural pressures. And it has to stop raining RIGHT NOW! We've received 15" of friggin rain in the last 7 days...help me please!