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intermediate ski recommendations

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

I've been shopping around for my first pair of skis and am pretty confused -- i live in toronto, canada and do most skiing in quebec, or vermont. Sometimes there's some powder, but as the day passes most of it is gone and sometimes there's some icy patches.

I notice that alot of the stores i go to will have skis that I don't see on the manufacturer's websites (last years models etc..)

Anyways, I've only ever used rentals, Rossignol "cut" or something like that and am aware that i should get a proper fitted boot, but i would like to save money on the skis -- last year models would be great for me i think.

I ski mainly average, i'd say, but like to go fast once in a while (i notice that one rentals that if i push it, the ski vibrates as a I skid). I am fine on blues, and can do easy blacks, but if I am tired, I will fall on the blacks.

If equipment is a factor, then i'd like to get equipment that will let me ski all day and not get so tired but also go fast once in a while and will allow me to get better on blacks.

any suggestions?
Oh, also I found good deals on these skis locally, and was wondering if anyone had any opinions on suitabilitiy:

head ic300
Elan A06
Elan A08
Atomic Izor 3:1
Dynastar Omecarve 06/08

post #2 of 7
Welcome to epic!

There are plenty of good intermediate skis out there. If I were you, I'd look for something that will be able to keep up as your skiing improves, but is still suitable for your current skill level. It would be helpful to us if you told us your height and weight, as well as how advanced your skiing is - do you carve all your turns, some of them, etc.

The ski I recommend to any intermediates is the Head i260C (which was the iC160 the last few years). It's a great ski, especially for conditions that you'll find in Ontario, Quebec and Vermont. It's a good carver, but fine for those that skid their turns, very stable and holds an edge well, even on ice. It copes with bumps and crud fairly well too. The most important aspect though is that it will continue to suit you well as your skiing progresses. Anyone can enjoy skiing on it. You may be able to find some deals on it if you look for the previous years model, the i.C160. They're very similar, both excellent skis.

As for the other options, I don't know enough to comment on the Elans or the Dynastar, but I can tell you that you should avoid the head ic300 - it's much more ski than you'll want right now. The Atomic might be suitable, but it's a very soft ski, so while it might suit you now, you'll find that as you progress (or even when you turn up the speed currently) you'll want somethign a little more capable.

Also, I noticed you mentioned that you want to get properly fitted boots. This is absolutely the way to go. Don't cheap out on your boots at all. Your skiing will be infinitely more enjoyable if your boots fit well, and the investment is well worth it, more so than buying the best ski you can find. In the Toronto area I would recommend the following shops for boot fitting (and other ski services too):
Sign of the Skier - http://www.thesignoftheskier.com/
Skiis and Biikes - http://www.skiisandbiikes.com/
Sporting Life - http://www.sportinglife.ca/

I would recommend Sign of the Skier and Skiis and Biikes over Sporting Life for boot fitting, but all three are good.
post #3 of 7

The good news is that there are many good-quality high performing ski for a recreational skier such as yourself. It’s not hard to find a bargain either. :

What is your size? (weight, height)
Are you moderately athletic? What other activities do you enjoy? (biking, hockey...)
That are your preferred runs? (blues, blacks)
Do you like long turns, short turns or a mix of turns?
Do you like the feel of speed or do you tend to avoid faster skiing?

Tell us a little more. It's not hard to find a bargain for someone with the right info.

Best regards,

post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
oops -- forgot... height 5'9, weight 135... I carve some turns but do alot of skidding sometimes...I prefer blues now, but would like to progress onto blacks.

I'm not sure what kinda of turns I prefer... I guess longer rather than shorter, cuz I just like to cruise down the hill and feel some speed ... but would like an easier to turn ski because i notice on blacks I have to turn alot more and more often (to slow down).

post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 
are you serious? I know I'm skinny, but .... wouldn't i just get shorter guy skis?
post #6 of 7

Consider the;

K2 Omni 160cm; http://www.cupolosports.com/k2omni45skis.html

Volkl 320 163cm; http://cgi.ebay.com/Volkl-Energy-320-163cm-w-Marker-Motion-10-Binding-New_W0QQitemZ8702636506QQcategoryZ26350QQtcZphotoQ QcmdZViewItem

Atomic SX:7 160cm; http://cgi.ebay.com/Atomic-SX-7-160cm-Ski-with-310-Device-Binding-New_W0QQitemZ8703388293QQcategoryZ21243QQtcZphotoQ QcmdZViewItem

The K2 is an award winning ski for progressing intermediates; good on ice-great in soft snow. The same could also be said of the of the Volkl and Atomic; however these skis are better on ice but still good in softer snow.

Hope that helps,

post #7 of 7
GFT, welcome to Epic Ski. I don't know alot about your conditions you ski in as I live in Western Canada and am blessed with conditions. I do know however about your body size and weight as I am 5'10 and was 135# for many many years.

I own the Rossignol Axium T-Power with the super twin deck risers in 177. I love them. They are a intermediate progressing skier ski. I consider myself into the expert / advance arena and it was only last year that I wanted more ski. I just couldn't afford better skis until now.

The are very forgiving, easy to ski when dog dead tired, make nice carve turns, do very well in the powder, slice through crud like a ginsu, do pretty well going very fast.

Best of all you should be able to find these for around $200, add another $100 for a mediocre pair of bindings. I like the look Turntable models. P10 would be all you need for your weight.

They may not be the best ice skis and if others make reccomendations that are known to be good on ice, I would go with their reccomendation.

Boots: DONT CHEAP OUT ! spend your money here and spend the rest on skis and bindings. You will want new skis in a few years and the boots will stay with you for some time. The best ski on the world is a popsicle stick without good boots. take your time, try them all on, don't let price be your guide let fit be your guide. wear each pair for a while, walk around let your feet swell. Good ski shops know a boot buyer will be there for a long time.

Always do a shell fit with no liner in and use the basic rules for fit (use the search function here, many many posts on boots) Don't buy boots too big. Big boots always feel good but they suck on-hill. they need to fit snug.

good luck. a little reading here will go a long way in equipment purchasing.

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