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New Skier,New Boots

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Hi,I am new to skiing at the ripe old age of 48.When I say new I have been a couple of times before to France and from being a complete "what the H*** do I do " beginner,I can now manage to get down our blues albeit in a clumsy way.I should add that I have not had any lessons but try to absorb stuff from a video and online instruction.

I am going Tignes this January and having decided I like this sport,I am determined to improve.So reading how the most important bit of kit is your boots and boot fit,I went to a local outdoor shop to buy some boots.I put myself in the hands of the shop and their boot guy.

The first eyeopener was that I am not a size 9(UK)as I had always thought,but a size 8 but with wide feet.I should add that I did not have any preconceptions about make and type etc.

The first thing I was told was that the best boot for my foot would be a Tecnica as they were the widest boot on the market.We went through the bare shell bit and I told him honestly about my lack of ability and so I have a fair clearance behind my heel.

However,when the liner is back in and some "conformables" are in the footbed,the fit is quite tight.Now I have read that this is to be expected and that the liner will ease off.

I have been putting them on around the house but how long should this easing off take.I know from reading this excellent site that they should be snug but snug is subjective.How snug is snug.When I take the boots off I tend to have red patched on the top of by foot above the arch which is quite pronounced.

My problem is that when in the shop I just don't know what a good fitting boot should feel like and so when the boot guy asks if they feel ok I honestly don't know.

So I suppose,what I am asking is How should my new boots feel,how tight is acceptable and how long should I give them to bed in and ease off before I think about going back to the shop ?

Any views would be appreciated.
post #2 of 7
A lot of boot fitters take the easy way out and say Technica is "the boot that matches your foot" . They are a good generic fit for average and wider feet (especialy the HVL) but if you add in thier LVL then you have an ideal boot for a narrow foot and their lower end boots have more volumn than thier icons , so Tecnica can fit many feet , depends on the model.It sounds like your problem is a high instep, which produces the red patch. Tecnica has an average instep while soloman has wide boots that have a high instep.If your boot is snug and comfy every where else, then he has to work on the instep , usualy grinding the footboard , will do it . Also if I understood you have custom footbeds , then he can thin down that also . As far as packing down , you can whear boots around the house for day s , but you will still get additional packing down once the dynamics of skiing have been introduced. What model of tecvnicas did you get?
post #3 of 7
Have you tried adjusting the micro adjustments on the second buckle up to just a bit looser?

Actually, before that question. Are you walking around when you get the red spot on your foot? Check to see if the boots have a walk ski mode. If they do make sure you have it on walk, this might aleviate your problem. I would take the boots and go skiing some place, see how they feel when you are actually skiing. Walking and skiing are two very different activities, they may feel better when your weight is set in the boots in a skiing stance.
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
The boots in question are the Technica Rival X7.
When I have them on in the house I walk around a bit and sit at the computer a while.

If I read it right,the boot should be comfortable but tight with no pinching or hotspots etc.

When referring to the "grinding the footbed " do you mean taking the plastic out and taking material off the bottom and is this something that I can do by placing them on say a sheet of aluminium oxide on a flat surface and reducing the thickness evenly or is this a can of worms best left to someone else ?
post #5 of 7
Grinding the foot "board" is different from thinning a custom foot bed. And I would leave grinding the foot board to a shop , because if they take too much off then they are liable. If you are walking around and sitting to pack down the boot then you are probably not engageing the boots tongue as you would skiing, as a result you are more in the back seat which would put more pressure on the instep and could cause redness that might not occur while skiing . Get them boots out on the slope for a day and ski them , then let us see.
post #6 of 7
It usually takes about 10-14 days of skiing for my boots to reach the point where I no longer feel them breaking in. Thankfully, my new boots went from unbearable to bearable in about 5 this year. So expect it to take some time, i.e., your entire vacation. That's why some bootfitters size you big. If you are only skiing 5 days a year, your boots will hurt for years, as it would take you that long to break them in.
post #7 of 7
As Donda & others have eluded to....you have to give the liners a little time before going for surgury....
A couple things....most brands of boots will have several specific models that differ slightly in shell shape.... and brand_X might offer you a slight difference in stance from brand_Y.
A well-made/tweaked footbed can make all the difference in the world in your skiing too.
As for liners...don't be afraid to try different liners...
I tried foam(*Conformables*)...they were just too dense for the fleshy parts of my feet..felt like concrete [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]


[ December 28, 2002, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: HaveSkisWillClimb ]
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