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Older powder ski recommendations?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hello everyone. I've been reading the forums for a couple weeks now, in search of info on powder skis. I've found a lot of good info, but mostly on newer equipment. I'm interested in buying some dedicated powder/backcountry skis for the occasional trip to resorts that offer this type of skiing. I live in Michigan, so that is not very often, so I don't want to spend a bundle on a ski I'll use maybe once or twice a year. What are some of the couple year old models I should look for in the classifieds and on ebay? I've been out west a few times and really enjoyed the back bowls, trees, glades, etc except for my sinking skis. This year I'm headed to Whistler in February, and hopefully to Mt Bohemia in March. I'd like to have something lined up by then.

As for me, I'm male, 6', 23 yrs old, 240lbs, aggressive skier. Currently have Dynastar Skicross 9s (178) for groomers and Fischer RC4 slalom race skis (168). (as well as the old K2 twos for rocks, sand, water and everything else inbetween)

From what I've read on the forums, it looks like I'm looking for something with about 90mm waist and in the 180s in length? I'm unsure of names/models to look for though...

post #2 of 18
do a search for....

volkl gotama
volkl sanouk
legend 8800

just to name a few.
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post #4 of 18
Volant Machete FB. often on sale for about $250.

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-VOLANT-Mache...cm dZViewItem

Find a Volant qualified installer!

Hope that Helps,

post #5 of 18
I am in your same situation - I live and ski in Western NY. My "out west" skis are K2 Axis Launchers. They were my first true powder ski that I ever skied on, and handle the conditions well. They are soft and easy to maneuver in tight places. They are a lot of fun in bottomless powder. If I go out west again anytime soon I will probably upgrade to something slightly beefier (with metal in it), but they are a good ski to get the feel for fat skis. I think if I skied on them every day I would break them in less than a month though.
post #6 of 18
Given that you already seem to like Dynastars, I'd recommend Legend 8000's. You can still find 04's new, and they're a great all mountain ski predisposed toward pow.
post #7 of 18
Here is a link to some good cheap pow skis. I am about your size and spent several days last year on the powder rides 180 in some Utah backcountry bottomless pow and they were great. The heli daddy would be a good option to.

post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the links and names. I'll be keeping an eye out for them. The Ebay search results are much better when using a name and not just "powder ski"

Any additional suggestions are always welcome and appreciated!
post #9 of 18
RD Heli Dogs can be found super-cheap. With some Rossi R500 plates on them and a set of Explosiv tip guards you've an Explosiv with a softer, damper tip. for trees and a damp crudbuster in the open.

Then you can figure out what you really want on the spot and still have $ left over.
post #10 of 18
Fischer BigStix 8.6. These have been discontinued and replaced by the new AMC designs, so leftovers from last season should be discounted pretty well. 180cm would be a good length.

post #11 of 18
At your size the Volkl Explosiv that was discontinued this year would be great in about a 180 length...if you can find them. Definitely worthy of consideration.

You indicated you are interested in a ski for powder/backcounty. I take this to mean you want skis suitable of off-piste, not true backcountry out of bounds (e.g. hiking, skinning, beacons, shovels, probes etc)?
post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 
Yes, you are correct. I guess off-piste is the term I'm looking for, sorry for any confusion. I don't really keep up with many of the terms, and that is one I was unsure of. I stay in bounds, but am not against a little bit of hiking. Looking for something that primarily will handle the powder, but be manueverable enough to go through the ocassional glade or tree patch. My western skiing experience is limited (Vail, Copper, & Keystone), so don't laugh, but my "greatest" powder experience was probably in Vail's Blue Sky Basin. I really enjoyed the terrain and snow but sank like a rock and had to fight for turns.

Would I be against "true" backcountry skiing...no. Given the opportunity I'd love to try it. But I don't have the mentioned equipment to do it and also don't know any areas well enough to feel comfortable straying from the resort. I've recently joined a ski club with lots of older and excellent skiers who are very experienced in that sort of skiing, so maybe someday I'll have that chance. But considering my off-piste opportunites are rare, and a back country trip even rarer and less likely than that, I think an off-piste ski should be plenty fine.

I've seen lots of positive comments on just about all the Volkl powder skis, so I'll be sure to keep an eye on them, but so far what I've found has been priced a bit more than what I want to spend.
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post #14 of 18
One word....Chubb.
post #15 of 18
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
One word....Chubb.
Actually, two words. V2 Chubb. They aren't made anymore but you can find them around if you look.
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I liked Elan's M777 of a couple seasons ago....but haven't gotten to bottomless conditions with it yet :.....handled 10" nicely though;-)
post #17 of 18
I love my Chubbs. And they are only getting cheaper.
post #18 of 18
Originally Posted by Rio
Actually, two words. V2 Chubb. They aren't made anymore but you can find them around if you look.
I wonder if the V2 Chubb (128/94/116) would be a stiff enough ski for a 240# aggressive skier, I hear it's pretty soft. Maybe the Machete FB would be a better match, but it isn't as manuverable as the V2 Chubb.

I'm guessing Phil and Offpiste were referring to the old steel cap Chubbs which are awesome, but might also be a bit soft for a really big hard charging guy, and the widest version was only 87mm in the waist. Alaska Mike has a pair of 190s, he said he was thinking of selling them over on Phil's thread about not starting out the season like he'd planned.

Peter Keelty of realskiers.com refers to the steel capped Chubbs as "quite simply the best powder ski yet made".
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