Bummer no evisceration from Rick yet. Well, I gotta go nap out for a while so…
RW, yes you did
understand my text. You also noticed what would be a flaw for regular turns - the apparent ‘over rotation’ of the pelvis about the Inside-Hip.
Degree and timing of counter-rotation matters but I never establish a ‘right’ amount of counter because it’s a continuum for me. ‘Too Much’ is when other mechanical things start to suffer, not a visual appearance as compared to a standard. If I ski the L2 or L3 Skiing Module and an Examiner says, “Hey, can you show me a little more/less counter…?” then I can adapt instantly.
What I’m describing here is just a more fully active transition, spread higher up the Old Turn which leaves me well oriented for the New Turn by the time I get there.
Two turn descriptions to differentiate this turn:
Both begin at Turn Apex in the fall line. At Apex we’ve already got some ‘counter’ established - some is between shoulders & pelvis and a little more exists between pelvis & each leg. Let’s also assume Edge-Change occurs right at perpendicular to the fall line.
So, For a typical turn…
Traveling from Apex to Edge-Change we maintain strong counter right up to Edge-Change. After Edge-Change we rotate our upper body and pelvis (establishing our New ‘strong inside half’) while we also ‘Ski Into’ our New counter.
At Edge-Change in such a turn our upper body and pelvis are still facing ‘largely’ or ‘somewhat’ downhill - so our legs are either ‘largely’ or ‘somewhat’ twisted up in our hip sockets. For Open Parallel this is fine because it helps to twist the skis into our new direction. For Dynamic Parallel it can be downright annoying. I’m ‘facing’ one way while my skis are largely pointed another.
Yes - I
there are lots of ways to describe this ‘the right way’ - adjusting when and where counter comes and goes and to what degree. I’m just using this sequence as a backdrop to exaggerate differences in Intent and Mechanics
And, For a ‘Flex less’ turn…
In this turn we chose to keep both legs as ‘straight’ as is reasonable (safety/comfort et al) throughout the turn. We use pelvic tilt to accommodate ‘inclination issues’ that would otherwise manifest themselves at our feet.
As we travel from Apex to Edge-Change our relative inclination to slope surface increases so we permit our pelvis to tilt as needed. At some preferential
point we … firmly restrict further pelvic tilt.
What happens? Pressure increases on the Inside-Ski and that whole CM/Base-of-Support ‘imbalance’ thing from the Ankle-Power thread ensues. Our CM begins its migration toward the New turn. Transition has begun early and weight can transfer quickly (or more slowly) to the Old Inside-Ski as dictated by our degree of resistance to further pelvic tilt.
Since our legs are straight and our waist muscles are so strong, we can precisely
control pressure at each foot via pelvic tilt. Our rate of CM transition is therefore highly controllable. Hopefully this explains why the Inside-Leg doesn’t really need to ‘get shorter’ late in the turn. Pelvic tilt can
accommodate a lot of inclination, but it doesn’t have to
since we need to begin migrating our CM to the other side anyway. -And- we can still
bend that Inside-Knee if we want to.
Finally, as we travel from Apex to Edge-Change we also rotate the Outside of our pelvis around the Inside-Femur - called “Arc-ing the Outside leg” by the person I learned it from a few years back. Doing this gradually eliminates
all of our pelvic counter by the time our Body reaches ‘Vertical to Gravity’. (Just before
edge-change on a mild slope and a bit earlier on a steep slope.)
This loss of all (or nearly all - again, it’s preferential) pelvis-counter leaves us in the perfect position to initiate the New turn be it a gradual new carved turn, a sharp new carved turn, a pivot turn, whatever. We’re left in the ideal position to decide at will and execute quickly.
I’m not sure I’d agree that rotating my femur in my hip socket is ‘more controllable’ than using my waist muscles to rotate my pelvis about my Inside Femur. The power of a ski to wrench my leg in its hip socket is well known to me. The power of both my skis even twisting fiercely isn’t sufficient to wrench my waist.
Once Again: Not saying we should throw out counter, discard the status quo or decry the existence of Short-Swing Turns. This is just another workable means to execute a turn. One that works well for me and seems to be OK with all the Examiners I’ve skied with the last couple of years. At least, they’ve not harped to me about it. Come to think of it, it was an Examiner who showed me most of it.