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Originally Posted by Meredith31skis View Post
 


I was there in the spring... lower mountain was essentially closed and trees were pretty bare. All we could ski was the big stuff on the upper mountain. But if you think the back bowls and the cliffs on the other side of Couloir Extreme aren't at all technical... I seriously don't know what's wrong with you. And ya I saw the lower glades and trees (even though we couldn't ski them because there was no snow) and it looked a lot like technical east coast skiing. I was making a comparison between big mountain skiing and trees skiing though... So I don't know what you're all upset about. I was at Whistler Blackcomb for only 6 days and it really wasn't enough to explore everything I wanted to, but it was still some of the best skiing I've ever done, and a totally different kind compared to the east coast.

 

Well OK, first you "did all the hard stuff", and now you were only there 6 days and half the mountain was closed.

 

I didn't say the back bowls and cliffs on the other side of Couloir extreme weren't technical - you put up a picture of one of the jewel bowls-? The other side of Couloir Extreme is the Glacier chair stuff, so OK again. This is the backside of Spanky's with the bowls - tough, challenging, sure. Technical, ummm, no, not really.

 

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And how can you tell that's not tight tree skiing from an entrance shot that looks virtually straight up at my bud? Hey, whatever. For those that can't see 180 degrees from that picture, here's the other side.

 

 

 

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I was making a comparison between big mountain skiing and trees skiing though. "West is big skiing, East is technical skiing, even on a powder day."  Well no, not really.

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Originally Posted by Meredith31skis View Post
 


I was there in the spring... lower mountain was essentially closed and trees were pretty bare. All we could ski was the big stuff on the upper mountain. But if you think the back bowls and the cliffs on the other side of Couloir Extreme aren't at all technical... I seriously don't know what's wrong with you. And ya I saw the lower glades and trees (even though we couldn't ski them because there was no snow) and it looked a lot like technical east coast skiing. I was making a comparison between big mountain skiing and trees skiing though... So I don't know what you're all upset about. I was at Whistler Blackcomb for only 6 days and it really wasn't enough to explore everything I wanted to, but it was still some of the best skiing I've ever done, and a totally different kind compared to the east coast.

 

Well OK, first you "did all the hard stuff", and now you were only there 6 days and half the mountain was closed.

 

I didn't say the back bowls and cliffs on the other side of Couloir extreme weren't technical - you put up a picture of one of the jewel bowls-? The other side of Couloir Extreme is the Glacier chair stuff, so OK again. This is the backside of Spanky's with the bowls - tough, challenging, sure. Technical, ummm, no, not really.

 

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And how can you tell that's not tight tree skiing from an entrance shot that looks virtually straight up at my bud? Hey, whatever. For those that can't see 180 degrees from that picture, here's the other side.

 

 

 

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I was making a comparison between big mountain skiing and trees skiing though. "West is big skiing, East is technical skiing, even on a powder day."  Well no, not really.


Those aren't tight trees.... but OK.

And I went straight to the hard trails at Blackcomb... the entire upper mountain, which is way steeper, was open... And I really don't find tight trees hard... I've been doing that on the east coast all my life... So I wanted to do some big mountain skiing, which apparently you think is not west skiing? I really don't get what you're all mad about....

 

If you want really tight trees just come to the east coast dude. (Not that I have anything against glades.... they're awesome)

 

And ya the picture is diamond bowl.

post #753 of 761

Ah, the old "tight trees only in the East" argument. 

Do they put some magic dust on the birch and pine trees there so they grow closer together? 

Strange that our pine and aspen trees here grow so far apart. I don't mind a little space so I can get some flow, but I've found tight trees here. 

There's a fine line between tight trees and bushwhacking. If it's more of the latter, that sucks! 

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Ah, the old "tight trees only in the East" argument. 

Do they put some magic dust on the birch and pine trees there so they grow closer together? 

Strange that our pine and aspen trees here grow so far apart. I don't mind a little space so I can get some flow, but I've found tight trees here. 

There's a fine line between tight trees and bushwhacking. If it's more of the latter, that sucks! 


Must be magic dust. :D

 

The worst is when you think you see a line... but then it's a dead end and you have to bushwhack out...

 

Maybe its elevation I wonder? There's different kinds of trees down lower on the mountains... but even the pines feel tighter... who knows. 

 

And bushwhacking for a good line is always worth it :)

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Originally Posted by Meredith31skis View Post
 


Must be magic dust. :D

 

The worst is when you think you see a line... but then it's a dead end and you have to bushwhack out...

 

Maybe its elevation I wonder? There's different kinds of trees down lower on the mountains... but even the pines feel tighter... who knows. 

 

And bushwhacking for a good line is always worth it :)

Nope, not elevation. 

There are tight trees everywhere. 

Too tight and you end up just bushwhacking or skiing for 3 feet before throwing on the brakes. 

No thanks. 

post #756 of 761
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Originally Posted by Meredith31skis View Post
 


Those aren't tight trees.... but OK.

And I went straight to the hard trails at Blackcomb... the entire upper mountain, which is way steeper, was open... And I really don't find tight trees hard... I've been doing that on the east coast all my life... So I wanted to do some big mountain skiing, which apparently you think is not west skiing? I really don't get what you're all mad about....

 

If you want really tight trees just come to the east coast dude. (Not that I have anything against glades.... they're awesome)

 

And ya the picture is diamond bowl.

 

I'm not mad, at all, You just keep falling back on yourself, and when I point it out you end up just digging in deeper.

 

"I skied all the tough stuff", then "I went late season and only the alpine was open" - well OK, pick one. Then showing a picture from the backside of Spanky's, and talking about how "technical it is" :dunno

 

Just FYI, all the hard trails aren't necessarily on the upper mountain(s), and yes, OBVIOUSLY big mountain skiing is PART of the west experience, but it isn't the ONLY thing, there's tight technical tree lines WAAAY longer, tighter and more technical than on the least coast (fyi, I have over 40 years experience with least coast skiing including many, many occasions at MRG (which I dearly loved), S'bush and the rest, so thanks anyway, but I stopped going a decade ago).

 

You can do a tree run almost all the way on the side of the Peak to Creek (that Whistler just FYI) for a mile of vertical with challenges from moderate to OMG (yes, yes, even for a MRG skier). So if you REALLY want to do the tough stuff (dude), at WB, it can be arranged.

post #757 of 761

This one is for Rod.  A friend of mine from a couple years back.  All in Maine or NH.   None of it lift served so off topic, but thread drift seems strong.

 

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Originally Posted by Maineac View Post
 

This one is for Rod.  A friend of mine from a couple years back.  All in Maine or NH.   None of it lift served so off topic, but thread drift seems strong.

 

 

 

I'd say that's a drift in the right direction, the right coast direction. Thanks for the post.

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This one is for Rod.  A friend of mine from a couple years back.  All in Maine or NH.   None of it lift served so off topic, but thread drift seems strong.

 

 

Repeat after me... there are no steeps in the East. 

 

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... Nevermind. 

post #761 of 761

I don't know about the hardest - as many have stated there are many variables - but the steepest in Quebec is supposed to be Cascade at Val d'Irene, a 900 ft vertical "hidden gem" near a town called Amqui on the western flank of the Gaspe. The top 3-400 vertical ft of Cascade are 55 degrees - legit - and it is about 20 ft wide. I have skied every named "trail" at Tuckerman's and can vouch that Cascade is,in fact, 55 degrees. There are no features to speak of and in soft snow it's a great run. With very stiff to icy conditions, I wouldn't take the chance. Even if you survived it wouldn't be much fun. Since no one else has mentioned it I thought I would. FYI

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