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Park City or SLC?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks Guys for your info. on the European prospects for December. Unfortunately, everything is booked up for the areas and timeframes we were looking at.

That being said, my wife and I would like to switch gears and plan for Utah for a late December, early January trip.

My questions are of course about the likelihood of snowy conditions and travelling between the various ski areas.

What conditions can reasonably be expected based off past early winter seasons? Is it easier (less mileage) to stay in SLC area to hit the different mountain valleys as compared to travelling in and out of Park City?

Thanks for the help!!

G
post #2 of 17
Defintely stay in SLC. Lodging costs in Park City will be high because of the holidays. Advanced terrain in the Park City group is often not adequately covered that early, while it usually will be in the Cottonwood Canyons. You can expect severe lift lines at Alta/Snowbird Christmas-to-New-Year's, especially if conditions elsewhere in Utah are marginal.
post #3 of 17
Drive up to Snowbasin during that time. They usually don't have long lines, at least compared to the other resorts, and the John Paul area should be open.
Or even check out Powder Mountain, very few lift lines.
post #4 of 17
If Alta/Snowbird are packed, Solitude won't be.

Park City is nice town to stay in but the prices and every day driving to Cottonwood Canyon might not be worth a few cozy nights in romantic town.
SLC is in the middle of everything, you can't go wrong
post #5 of 17
Last few winter had incredible conditions that time of year, all throughout Utah. Does that mean good conditions this year? No. Tony is correct that LCC/BCC will have more snow (they always do), but there are some caveats:

- LCC, in particular needs a LOT more snow to cover the steeper terrain and rocky slopes. In the old days, Snowbird wouldn't even open until they had 60" on the ground AT THE BASE.

- The PC resorts have a LOT more snowmaking, mainly used to supplement their bases. With winter storms, pretty much a sure thing by then, the man made will not be noticed except for deeper snow depth, as fresh snow covers the man made. In lean years, the PC resorts often have more and varied terrain open than do their LCC/BCC counterparts. To add to that, the somewhat more grassy slopes require less snow for good coverage in the first place.

SLC is always a good choice for earlier season lodging, as it gives you so many last minute choices, based on the day's weather.

Powdr
post #6 of 17
i usually stay in Sandy, UT... most of the hotels there sell really cheap "pick your resort" tickets that you trade at the window for passes. alta/snobird/solitude or brighton i want to say....
post #7 of 17
If it's a low snow year Alta and Brighton are still quite manageable with high base elevation and some well covered trails coming down to them. At Snowbird and to some extent Solitude I would agree you need that 60 inch base.

Also agree on Snowbasin and Powder Mt. as best options to avoid holiday crowds. Base of Snowbasin is low, so I suspect it doesn't do well in low snow years.
post #8 of 17
Snowbasin has fantastic snowmaking so it shouldn't/hasn't been a problem.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for your information.

Couple of other questions: 3/2 Beer? Wow I thought that was a thing of the past. Does that apply to the whole state of Utah? I will be coming off of a long hard tour in support of OIF III. I will need good beer!

Where are the best places for Mexican food in SLC? This is another "jonesing" that must be satisfied!

OK, let me squeeze another question in here. Do any of the resorts have any decent discounts for rentals and lift tickets for service members?

Thanks in Advance,

G
post #10 of 17
You can get real beer at the liquor stores, although they make you feel like addicts turning up at the methadone clinic a bit (do you have methadone clinics in the US?), or they did a few years back at any rate. The light stuff tastes like normal US beer, but I have to say if you have too much of it, it gives you a hangover without the fun of being drunk first.

I had the best Mexican food ever in SLC (a few years back). It was just some Mexicans who set up a stall inside what looked like an old tyre shop. Slab of concrete with glass walls and a power point. They put up tresles, had big pots of stuff on gas camp stoves, beer and soft drink floating in a tub of ice water, salsas and coriander and cream in bowls on another tresles, and the best damn burritos I have ever, ever had. I can still taste it. Gawd it was good!

You probably need to ask locals where such places are.
post #11 of 17
Best Mex we had was in some place inside PCMR, really good!

DEFINITELY stay in SLC, longest drive is to Snowbasin (35 minutes fast driving, just don't miss the exit, it's the first one that mentions the mountain).

E-mail the Hotels now, get a weekly rate, you'll save a bundle! For example, last year we stayed at Crystal Inn downtown, very centrally located, $59/nt including FULL bkfast. Had an offer of $89 for the Residence Inn, 1 bedroom suite. Shop my man!

We've been to Utah 4 times and never had a "snow" problem, except for this past winter: TOO MUCH!!!!!!!
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by apache67

OK, let me squeeze another question in here. Do any of the resorts have any decent discounts for rentals and lift tickets for service members?



G
Canyon Sports for discounts (not service-related). Easy access, can pick up tix on your way to the LCC, BCC

http://www.canyonsports.com/
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by apache67
OK, let me squeeze another question in here. Do any of the resorts have any decent discounts for rentals and lift tickets for service members?

Thanks in Advance,

G
Apache,

Hill AFB has discount tix through their MWR, but their prices aren't any better than the discounts you can get at the ski shop near baggage claim in the SLC airport. It's more of a hassle because it's about a 30 minute drive from the airport up to Hill. You then have to backtrack past the airport and continue another 30 minutes south if you stay in Sandy (that's where I always stay).

What unit? I got out 3 years ago but was a Blackhawk/LittleBird guy with the 160th many moons ago. Did a couple of rotations in OEF (Masirah, Oman and Bagram, Afganistan).

Brian
post #14 of 17
Apache,

Deer Valley and Park City both had significant military discounts last year while the other areas near SLC did not. We only paid $46 at Deer Valley and the Park City discount was similar. Not sure about Snowbasin or Powder Mountain as we had already purchased our Snowbasin ticket the day we arrived, so we didn't inquire. As Bjohannson said, the discounts at See & Ski or Canyon Sports were as good as what Hill AFB MWR had. Stay safe and have a good trip.

Retired Navy here!
post #15 of 17
bestMexican Food in slc the Red iguania (sp ) on North Temple
post #16 of 17
[quote=Gpaul]...Best Mex we had was in some place inside PCMR, really good!....QUOTE]

Oh my god, you *cannot* be referring to the Baja Cantina, can you?!?. Worst Mexican in all of Utah. Well, that's a stretch but not far from it.

In Salt lake, go to one of the several La Fronteras for authentic style Mexican. Also go to Cafe Rio for really good Americanized Mexican. There are quite a few local, non chain restaurants that are quite good in just about all neighborhoods in Salt Lake. Park City has some OK stuff; Zona Rosa, La Casita, even El Chubasco, but nothing really good. (Note to self: good business opportunity for good Mex in PC).

Powdr
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bjohansson
Apache,

Hill AFB has discount tix through their MWR, but their prices aren't any better than the discounts you can get at the ski shop near baggage claim in the SLC airport. It's more of a hassle because it's about a 30 minute drive from the airport up to Hill. You then have to backtrack past the airport and continue another 30 minutes south if you stay in Sandy (that's where I always stay).

What unit? I got out 3 years ago but was a Blackhawk/LittleBird guy with the 160th many moons ago. Did a couple of rotations in OEF (Masirah, Oman and Bagram, Afganistan).

Brian
Thanks for the info. Bryan,

My deployment is a long story. I was commuting down from Chicago to Conroe, TX. (7/6 CAV). Our sister Apache unit got alerted for OIF III. They were so short on pilots and mechanics that they robbed Peter to pay Paul so to speak and as a result many of us got tied into the deployment (the unit is 8-229th out of Knox). So he we are. Most of us (myself included) had just returned from OEF less than 15 months prior to the present deployment.

My brother was a Chinook guy at 3rd Bat., Savannah. His wife had enough (after 11 years in the regiment) and now he instructs at Rucker. It's likely you guys flew some of the same missions in Afcrackistan.

Anyway, excuse the rant. Once again, thanks for the skiing info. and thanks for your military service

G
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