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Nordica SUV 12.1 or last years 12 XBS???

post #1 of 16
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anybody have any history with this ski as i am am a expert skier who got a pair FREE!!! . I just was wondering if anybody knew anything about it, performence, abilities, strengths, or had any history with it. Any comments would be helpful


THANK U!!! 2 all
post #2 of 16
The Nordica Rep here says last year's 12 is thi year's 14.1. I'd buy the the 2004-2005 12 off ebay. There are always a couple sets lurking.
post #3 of 16
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so what r u saying
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by Crudfish
The Nordica Rep here says last year's 12 is thi year's 14.1. I'd buy the the 2004-2005 12 off ebay. There are always a couple sets lurking.
So does that mean that last year's 14 is this years 16.1? Or what?
post #5 of 16
yes
post #6 of 16
excellent, cause that is what I just bought and I wanted something closer to the 16.1!
post #7 of 16
Duh...was thinking speedmachine, not SUV..
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
ooo but the SUV series they changed this year...for one they did away with the SUV 14 (which had piston). Now the suv series consists of the 12.1, 10.1, 8.1, and the 6.1. I am not sure if the SUV 12 changed i think they gave it a slighly better construction but no piston so thats upseting. And ski magazine saw the SUV 12.1 a aspiring expert ski which means it is below the all mountain cruiser and all-mountain expert. This seems weird as the previous year ski mag slated last years 12 in the all-mountain expert catoragiory. I am really looking for anybody's imput who has anything 2 say about the SUV series last year or this year
post #9 of 16
The only difference between last years SUV 14 and 12 was the PISTON factor, same skis, different graphics. This years 12.1 is "comparable" to last years 12.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
so r u saying better or worse
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
ooo and the HOT ROD TOP FUEL ANYBODY know or have anything on that ski
post #12 of 16
I'm skiing last years 14, very satisfied with it. OK in powder, good in bumps, turns like its on rails.
post #13 of 16

Nordica SUV 14 XBS versus Volkl Supersports

After trying the earlier Volkl 5 Star (glossy finish topskins) I thought that although it's very forgiving and versatile for a narrower ski, it seemed like a hard snow carving width and shape but an off piste all-around flex; a bit soft for true hard snow, and a bit narrow for off-piste. On the other hand, after skiing the Volkl 6 Star in the 182 cm length for 2 seasons, it's a bit much most of the time; what I call a 90-10 ski; about 90% GS ski, widened about 10%. The 6 is terrific on hard snow but takes effort - very technically proper effort - to really flex it in soft snow and is balky in tight spots where most of us need to slow down. Not to mention the trouble with 2 pair of the Piston Motion plates wearing, loosening up and eventually vibrating badly enough to spit the toe binding off at speed.

Last spring I demoed the 2005 Nordica SUV 14 XBS and realized immediately that it's the right ski for me. It's marked 180 cm but measures 178, a nice in-between length; short enough to be nimble on piste and in bumps, but enough length to afford some stability in shallow crud. It seems almost as stiff as the 6 Star, but with less metal; the flex is right in between the 5 Star and 6 Star; more or less equivalent to about a "5.5" Star. The XBS is a lighter, simpler, and probably more durable version of the piston dampening integration system.

If anything, the SUV 14's overall performance, including hard snow, seems at least as good as the 6 Star, maybe slightly better just because for me, it's more skiable, and almost as forgiving as the 5 Star. Really been digging it, very satisfied.

It might be more than a coincidence that the 2006 model Allstar not only has different rails from the previous 2 years, but has also been widened 2 mm to almost match the dimensions of the SUV 14.

See you on the hill...

Smiles,
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by valleygrlvt
The only difference between last years SUV 14 and 12 was the PISTON factor, same skis, different graphics. This years 12.1 is "comparable" to last years 12.
I respectively disagree. I have the 14's and have skied the 12's several times. Both are great skis, but the 14's are stiffer.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by Sandman
ooo and the HOT ROD TOP FUEL ANYBODY know or have anything on that ski
I have a pair and love them. If you do a search in this forum you'll find many reviews on the TF, all are positive.
post #16 of 16
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If anything, the SUV 14's overall performance, including hard snow, seems at least as good as the 6 Star, maybe slightly better just because for me, it's more skiable, and almost as forgiving as the 5 Star. Really been digging it, very satisfied.
My opinion is the SUVs are much more stable on chattery ice than the Supersports. The one Volkl ski that compares to them is the Superspeed. It skis almost identically to the SUVs and has the same dimensions. Both the SUVs and Superspeed are guarenteed to get you in trouble for skiing to fast.
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